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Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:14 pm
Any one feel like there's a chance Mauk gets benched if he plays poorly? I know it's highly unlikely. I have seen several scouts who have said if there were an open competition they feel Lock would win this year. I don't disagree.
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:24 pm to Mizzou23
Who are these "scouts?" I've heard or read nobody saying that. If you have a source, I'd love to read it. College football doesn't have scouts. Are these NFL guys? Where are the quotes?
The transition from high school to SEC football is huge. We haven't even seen Lock practicing with the Tigers, yet a few people (like yourself) are already certain he's better than Mauk.
The transition from high school to SEC football is huge. We haven't even seen Lock practicing with the Tigers, yet a few people (like yourself) are already certain he's better than Mauk.
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Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:25 pm to Mizzou23
Sometimes you have to realize in a poor investment and cut your losses......peace Mauk.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:30 pm to MizzouJim
There was an article in the PD right before signing day, It's a Matter article. The recruiting guy for Missouri said that from day 1 Lock would be better than all of the backups.
About ever recruiting analyst have said the same. Trent Dilfer raves about Lock.
Having said that things would probably have to go real bad in order for Lock to play this season.
About ever recruiting analyst have said the same. Trent Dilfer raves about Lock.
Having said that things would probably have to go real bad in order for Lock to play this season.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 1:48 pm to wubilli
I've said it before, Lock will not play next year.
I think everyone would agree, GP is gonna start the season with Mauk, so 1 of two things happen.
One, Mauk and team do well in which case GP is never going to switch QB's.
Second, Mauk and the team falter. If that's the case, I don't see GP switching QB's until there's something like 4 losses. So why burn Lock's redshirt on a season that already has 4 losses.
Just no scenario I can think of that Lock plays next year. I'm ok with that. We have capable back ups.
I think everyone would agree, GP is gonna start the season with Mauk, so 1 of two things happen.
One, Mauk and team do well in which case GP is never going to switch QB's.
Second, Mauk and the team falter. If that's the case, I don't see GP switching QB's until there's something like 4 losses. So why burn Lock's redshirt on a season that already has 4 losses.
Just no scenario I can think of that Lock plays next year. I'm ok with that. We have capable back ups.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:11 pm to reedus23
Maybe not even Lock. But if Mauk holds this team back, as I feel he did last season even in a good year, I hope the staff won't be afraid to do what's right got the team. Though I do expect Mauk to be better as I feel the wideouts will be better. Sasser was good but Nate Brown with a full off season should be better.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:15 pm to reedus23
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I've said it before, Lock will not play next year.
I agree, Reedus. I think we'd pretty much have to lose everybody at the position for Lock to play, and the odds of that happening are pretty small. Lock redshirting can only make him better.
I remember how much people hated on James Franklin and wanted Mauk to replace him even when James was healthy. They trashed Pinkel for not doing it. Those people were wrong as to what Pinkel would do and wrong about that being the best decision for the team. The result was Franklin came back and we had one of the best seasons in Mizzou history. Now a loud few are bagging on Mauk.
Maty's last 7 games were much improved over his first 7. Maty completed 59% of his passes in the last half of the season. Historically under Pinkel, quarterbacks make the biggest jump in development from their first full starting year to their second. I'm hoping Maty does the same.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:24 pm to MizzouJim
I'm hoping for a jump in Mauk's play as well, but don't confuse me as a Mauk supporter. I think he was serviceable last year but by no means good. I hope he does have that jump from experience.
The best thing that could happen from the team's point of view is that Mauk improves each of the next 2 years. Lock redshirts this year and plays a few series per game in Mauk's senior year when Lock is a redshirt freshman.
The best thing that could happen from the team's point of view is that Mauk improves each of the next 2 years. Lock redshirts this year and plays a few series per game in Mauk's senior year when Lock is a redshirt freshman.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:28 pm to wubilli
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There was an article in the PD right before signing day, It's a Matter article. The recruiting guy for Missouri said that from day 1 Lock would be better than all of the backups. About ever recruiting analyst have said the same. Trent Dilfer raves about Lock. Having said that things would probably have to go real bad in order for Lock to play this season.
Saying Lock is better than all the backups is different than what you said in your original post, which suggested Lock would beat out Mauk in an open competition. Coming in cold in the fall as a true freshman, that ain't gonna happen.
Having said that, I'm very high on Lock.
I look at "recruiting analysts" this way: If they really knew their stuff, they'd be making a ton more money actually recruiting for schools. It's easy to have an opinion, it's a lot harder when you have to be accountable for it. Those guys can be dead wrong and they don't lose their jobs, unlike coaches. They're just like sports handicappers. If somebody's really good at picking games, they'd be making a ton of money gambling on their own and wouldn't need to sell their opinions.
It's fun to talk about and speculate about as fans. It doesn't mean "analysts" have a clue.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 2:34 pm to reedus23
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I'm hoping for a jump in Mauk's play as well, but don't confuse me as a Mauk supporter. I think he was serviceable last year but by no means good. I hope he does have that jump from experience.
Mauk was frustrating for me to watch.
His footwork, his mechanics, his pocket reaction, his checkdowns and his accuracy all left something to be desired. He did improve in most of those areas over the second half of the season, but he needs to improve more. What I don't doubt is his leadership and his toughness. He does have an intangible "it" factor that makes him a winner. This coming year, I'd rather beat teams by 21 or more rather than have to have "gutty," close victories every game.
Coming into last season, I expected we'd finish 3rd in the division and have a 9-3, 8-4 type year with a new quarterback and our wide receiver attrition. I was happy to be wrong. This year, I want more, and it will be impossible to win our division and legitimately have a shot to win the SEC without Mauk over 60% and playing better in just about every phase.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:12 pm to MizzouJim
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Mauk was frustrating for me to watch.
Same here but the kid seems to deliver when the team is floundering. I know one thing, MM aint afraid to take a hit, deliver a hit (poor Gopher DB
) and get his arse back up and let his team know you can count on me as long as my shite aint broke half. Boys if somehow the receivers and MM get on the same page we may see some games where MIZZOU is throwing 40+ pts on the board several times this year, can't wait!! 
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:23 pm to Mizzou23
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Any one feel like there's a chance Mauk gets benched if he plays poorly? I know it's highly unlikely. I have seen several scouts who have said if there were an open competition they feel Lock would win this year. I don't disagree.
I highly doubt it. There was a stretch last year where he was playing some of the worst football I've seen and he wasn't benched then.
He needs to play a lot better though. We need to be much better on offense next year.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 3:35 pm to JoeMoTiger
I do wanna clarify, this is purely "nothing going on right now so just having a conversation" post.
Mauk is a big play waiting to happen. That can be said from both teams though.
I do think he will improve this year. I am not saying a change should be made. Just bringing up the question of would the team be better if a change was made and would the staff be willing to make a change if the season depends on it.
Also I think it's great there are people who genuinely feel Lock could start as a true freshman based on his talent alone.
Mauk is a big play waiting to happen. That can be said from both teams though.
I do think he will improve this year. I am not saying a change should be made. Just bringing up the question of would the team be better if a change was made and would the staff be willing to make a change if the season depends on it.
Also I think it's great there are people who genuinely feel Lock could start as a true freshman based on his talent alone.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 4:38 pm to Mizzou23
I love our recruiting class. The one position that needs to redshirt the most is QB. I don't care if Mauk gets hurt and we play Printz or Berk. I went to school with Texas A&M Offenisive Coordinator at Missouri State University. He was a career back-up, he received very little playing time while in school, but what you learn from the bench is priceless. If Lock has as much talent as we think he has then what he can learn from Henson/Mauk in the next two years should make him a player like Chase Daniel.
I would be happy with that outcome.
I would be happy with that outcome.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 5:03 pm to MizzouJim
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Saying Lock is better than all the backups is different than what you said in your original post, which suggested Lock would beat out Mauk in an open competition.
I read the same article as the OP, an the scout quoted did say he thought Lock might just beat Mauk in an open competition. He was very high on Lock.
That said, I see no chance he plays this year. I see Printz as the backup unless there is something we don't know.
I wish Zander's would convert to WR. I really, really do.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 5:25 pm to MizzouJim
Wasn't actually me saying that Lick would step in and play. The only way I see it would be a season ending injury to Mauk early in the year.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 6:13 pm to Mizzou23
Pinkel just has no history of benching QBs. He picks the guy he thinks is best in camp, and then that's his guy come hell or high water. There is some good and bad with that philosophy.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 6:19 pm to MizzouJim
Trent Dilfer has mentioned that Lock already has NFL teams keeping tabs on him. This happens with many "top rated" QB's especially those with the measurable of height and arm strength. A redshirt is not a necessity for every player coming into a program.
This is actually what some of us wanted in recruiting and that's getting 4 and 5 star impact players who have a ceiling of 3-4 years to optimize that talent,
If we continue to pull in top 25, and eventually top 10 classes, we will continue to have players that can cause an impact immediately and also turnover will become more rapid so redshirts will definitely decrease over time.
This is actually what some of us wanted in recruiting and that's getting 4 and 5 star impact players who have a ceiling of 3-4 years to optimize that talent,
If we continue to pull in top 25, and eventually top 10 classes, we will continue to have players that can cause an impact immediately and also turnover will become more rapid so redshirts will definitely decrease over time.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:15 pm to JesusQuintana
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Pinkel just has no history of benching QBs. He picks the guy he thinks is best in camp, and then that's his guy come hell or high water. There is some good and bad with that philosophy.
Depending on what picture I'm looking at, I could agree or disagree with this. I think that Lock could come into fall camp and flat out beat MM in a truly open competition. I still don't think GP would start Lock. Just not the way GP operates. In this instance, it also might be the best thing for the program overall even if Lock does show out as being better.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 7:25 pm to reedus23
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Depending on what picture I'm looking at, I could agree or disagree with this. I think that Lock could come into fall camp and flat out beat MM in a truly open competition. I still don't think GP would start Lock. Just not the way GP operates. In this instance, it also might be the best thing for the program overall even if Lock does show out as being better.
This team is MM's unless something batshit crazy happens. MM has plenty of game experience now and a good bowl win, if he ups his game a little this year we'll be more than good to go at QB.
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