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Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 12/23/16 at 2:28 pm
I just don't see the upside of firing him now or before the season is over. Attendance won't go up. I don't think this team will start playing harder or shooting better under Fulford or Shields. If Sterk decides to make a change, he can make a change after the SEC Tournament and will have no shortage of candidates.
The team is losing the fan base is apathetic, but whoever replaces Anderson, whether that's in March or a year from now or two years from now, I don't think they'll have to clean up to the same degree that Mike Anderson did post-Snyder and Anderson did post-Haith. They'll need players. But Haith left a program that was under NCAA investigation and a roster with a bunch of transfers who didn't really want to be here.
Too much time has passed to keep blaming Mike Anderson for the roster situation. Haith chose to go the transfer route, and he also struggled recruiting impact high school players. That set the program back considerably. Kim Anderson inherited some malcontents and let his associate head coach bring in some more. But now he's got the roster he put together on his own, and while young they're just not getting much better.
The team is losing the fan base is apathetic, but whoever replaces Anderson, whether that's in March or a year from now or two years from now, I don't think they'll have to clean up to the same degree that Mike Anderson did post-Snyder and Anderson did post-Haith. They'll need players. But Haith left a program that was under NCAA investigation and a roster with a bunch of transfers who didn't really want to be here.
Too much time has passed to keep blaming Mike Anderson for the roster situation. Haith chose to go the transfer route, and he also struggled recruiting impact high school players. That set the program back considerably. Kim Anderson inherited some malcontents and let his associate head coach bring in some more. But now he's got the roster he put together on his own, and while young they're just not getting much better.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 3:26 pm
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 3:56 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Wow. Amazing analysis from Matter. I disagree with his analysis. It's harder to recruit impact players than it is to get out from minor NCAA violations. And the reason Haith's players didn't want to be here is the same reason new recruits aren't coming - Kim Anderson.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 4:02 pm to the808bass
He doesn't see the upside, but what's the downside?
You've got to send a message to fans at some point. It's an all time low for the program, but also the fanbase. As apathetic as I've ever seen.
You've got to send a message to fans at some point. It's an all time low for the program, but also the fanbase. As apathetic as I've ever seen.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:39 pm to JesusQuintana
We've never cared less as a fanbase.
It seems to me that the more casual fans are the only ones (outside of the senile) questioning what will happen eventually. And if that's the case, it doesn't matter if you do it after we lose to Lipscomb or after we lose our first game in the SEC tournament.
It seems to me that the more casual fans are the only ones (outside of the senile) questioning what will happen eventually. And if that's the case, it doesn't matter if you do it after we lose to Lipscomb or after we lose our first game in the SEC tournament.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 6:56 pm to the808bass
Like 808 said, it probably doesn't make a difference. I'd just like to see it happen so that I can feel like we are moving on. The fact that Kevin Puryear, arguably MU's best player, is statistically worse this year than last is telling.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 7:36 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:it's just a punitive measure at this point that looks pathetic and is not a positive for getting a new coach. Do it towards the end of the season like a mature AD. Start looking now
but what's the downside
quote:that's some touchy feely crap. If you said you've got to do something for the fans so they don't pass out while holding their breath until they turn purple I would by in.
You've got to send a message to fans at some point.
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 7:37 pm to the808bass
DM isn't going to say anything that might get his dick shut in the door.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:40 pm to MIZ_COU
You're right. God forbid fans being angry that the program is at a literal all time low and desperately wanting a change.
Bunch of crybabies
Bunch of crybabies
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:40 pm to navynuke
That's of course true. He knows what not to say in a public forum.
But on that issue, he's being genuine.
But on that issue, he's being genuine.
Posted on 12/23/16 at 11:45 pm to JesusQuintana
Heyzues.
The AD isn't going to prioritize message board fan demands above all else.
Of course fans are everything to an athletic department, but this isn't just about what you want -- there's a number of reasons you don't do it right now. They've all been said and repeated on here.
The AD isn't going to prioritize message board fan demands above all else.
Of course fans are everything to an athletic department, but this isn't just about what you want -- there's a number of reasons you don't do it right now. They've all been said and repeated on here.
Posted on 12/24/16 at 7:33 am to Xanthous
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The fact that Kevin Puryear, arguably MU's best player, is statistically worse this year than last is telling.
This isn't true. KP is averaging more points, rebounds, assists than last year. Not by much. The only percentage is worse is his fg%, and it's barely below last years percentage.
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