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LOL! Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse

Posted on 11/7/15 at 8:44 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 8:44 pm
All of our black players are not going to participate in any football activities until...well, I don't know when.

I can do nothing but laugh.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:01 pm to
Wut?
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:09 pm to
It's in solidarity of this guy.

I'm gonna get in here and say I probably don't agree with what most of you are about to say about this.
This post was edited on 11/7/15 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:18 pm to
I really wish the university president or chancellor would have said something during Ferguson.

Then the student body president wouldn't have gotten called racial slurs. Words hurt, and the words they would have said in support of the Ferguson protests totally would have made the racists in this world less racist.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:27 pm to
Ferguson was a bad deal.

I don't think the cop was wrong, but anyone from STL knows that north county has been a powder keg for years.

Obviously the president was clueless.

If he wasn't he'd have spoken on it in some form or fashion. I get their frustrations, 7% of the student population gets 100% of the racism.

It's not an easy thing to deal with, and apparently they feel threatened enough to do this. Racism is real, and marginalization is real.

When you're a very small part of something, and you are made to feel even smaller, and threatened on top of it, this is what happens.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:30 pm to
I didn't read the article cuz, well I just don't care enough anymore. For whatever it's worth, I'm hearing COMO ain't too fun of a place to be for any more than a weekend of football. Just a butt ton of tension and the stupid kind if you ask me and more than hunger strikes. Guess it's just getting worse all over the country, not just COMO. I don't get it but I guess there will just be assholes on both sides for as long as we're breathing.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:33 pm to
Why would they support the Ferguson protests?

Just to be politically correct in liberal eyes?
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

I don't think the cop was wrong, but anyone from STL knows that north county has been a powder keg for years.

True.

But I don't believe that 7% of the population gets 100% of the racism. Or, perhaps discrimination is a better word. Discrimination can happen to everyone. It's happened to me because I'm a female, and because I'm white. Recently too. It happens to LGTB, HIspanics, Asians, African-Americans, Jewish people, etc.

I'm very confused by all this as it's breaking. I'm hearing the coaches are in support of these actions?
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:41 pm to
Yep. North County is fricked, and since Mizzou is in the same state as Ferguson it needed to be addressed at Mizzou by those at the highest level.

I actually don't get it at all.

The Student Body president was called a n by some redneck. That needed to be addressed too?

Some unknown person of unknown racial background (not that it should matter) draws a swastika on a wall with shite, and that needs to be addressed too? What the frick do nazis have to do with black people or Ferguson?

If we're trying to weed out all the frickheads on campus, why are only the black players striking? Why does the president have to lose his job? What does anything have to do with anything?

So I read a little more and came across this line:

quote:

"I thought, ‘What else do I have to do to prove my humanity’?” Butler told The Washington Post. “What else do I have to do, just because I’m a black person, to prove to you that I deserve to have a good experience on campus? That’s when I started to think about the action of the hunger strike.”


You deserve a good experience on campus? LOL, really?

That's what this is about?

We're really raising a generation of weaklings.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Why would they support the Ferguson protests?

I would have been incensed if the University came out and supported those protests.

I am surprised, however, if no statement was made. At least something that acknowledges the situation and calls for easing tensions. But as volatile as that situation was, and is, they may have felt it was not their place to comment - bound to piss off people either way.

quote:

Just to be politically correct in liberal eyes?

I'm sick of labels like "conservative" and "liberal". We are all people, and maybe if we focused on the things we have in common rather than demonizing everyone who disagrees with any view we hold, we just might make more progress. And that's as political as I will ever be on this board.
Posted by Koch Snowflake
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2013
129 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:46 pm to
Nobody in their right mind would ever have commented on the Ferguson thing unless they absolutely had to. It was political suicide no matter how you responded and only a fool would have dipped into it unless they were forced to.

Support the protesters and end up looking like an overreacting idiot when the facts come out or support the cops and be labelled a heartless racist. Lose-lose situation.

The university should not have be picking sides anyway.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:49 pm to
Why shouldn't he deserve a good experience on campus?

He's paying good money to be there.

Shouldn't everyone at least deserve that?

A good experience.

I mean if your experience is shitty because you were shitty, then fine, yeah, thats your fault.

However, if your experience is shitty because of hatred, well, that sucks. No one should have to deal with that.

As far as the Ferguson thing goes, a lot of these kids are probably from that area. It affected them more than you or me could fathom.

I like you Zeaux, and most of you guys for that matter. So, I'm not going to get into semantics. We will never see eye to eye on these issues, and I'm ok with that.

All I'll say is, put yourself in their shoes, maybe you'll see it from a different point of view.

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

We're really raising a generation of weaklings.

Yes, I do believe that we are.

That's the line that took him from "activist" to "overly dramatic" for me. His death, should it go that far, isn't going to effect the changes he's hoping for. I understand his position, and can sympathize to some degree, but no one owes him a positive experience, or anything else. A safe experience, yes. An education that he's paying for, yes. A valuable learning experience, most definitely. But I really don't see how the University can force someone not to be racist. At best, they can attempt to marginalize racists, and lead by example. Unfortunately, racists can only be beaten by a groundswell of opposing opinion.
This post was edited on 11/7/15 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

7% of the student population gets 100% of the racism.



Come on now. No way that's true.
Posted by Koch Snowflake
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2013
129 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:55 pm to
I have lot of problems with this entire thing but my biggest one is this..

The person that drew that swastika.. Why the hell is it assumed that they are racist. They have many bigger mental problems that that if they are drawing anything in FECES... What type of healthy person decides that they want to commit vandalism in poop... Maybe they only drew a swastika because they didn't have enough poop for a peace symbol...

That person has many problems and I don't even know if being a racist is their biggest one.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 9:55 pm to
America has been pussified beyond belief. The French would destroy us, I'm sure of it.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27423 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:02 pm to
ETA:

We do what we do
This post was edited on 11/7/15 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

All I'll say is, put yourself in their shoes, maybe you'll see it from a different point of view.



I'm not getting into it, because a white dude saying he's been in that situation has as much impact as a rich guy saying he's known what it's like to be poor these days. I have been there. We were about 25% versus the 7% they are, but I was there for four years.

It was a lot worse than name calling and someone writing something on a wall.

And these kids are weaklings.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:20 pm to
Hey, I'm cool with it.

I get both sides here.

I just think that if they are willing to do this, then yeah, there's more to it, and the more to it is stuff we don't ever have to deal with.

It doesn't make sense to us, because we've never seen it, never had to deal with it etc.

As far as the shite swastika, yeah, that's got to be a crazy fricker.

I know there are racist trash out there, I've talked to them, I've been around them. To act like they don't exist is burying your head in the sand.

Sure, most of these events are retarded drunk college kids. Still.

Whether you take them seriously or not, black folks have to take them serious. It's just how it works.

I'm 180 degrees out of phase with all of you politically. I don't have a problem with that. I'm just saying that they wouldn't just do all of this because it's SJW time.

They have a lot to lose.

Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17218 posts
Posted on 11/7/15 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I know there are racist trash out there, I've talked to them, I've been around them. To act like they don't exist is burying your head in the sand.


No one will debate this with you, but much like the negative of all groups they are a minority of the overall population.

Why do we spend so much time focusing on them when the majority of level headed people agree their actions are wrong.

What is so hard to understand about this, as it's been said so many times before the worse of each group do not represent that group as a whole.

Furthermore, every single group have others that will at times make them feel like shite, pick on them, treat them poorly for any number of reasons.

Growing up as a child raised by my mother alone working a labor job I was made fun of for being poor and not having the 80 dollar football jerseys or new nikes. Am I combating the entire white race because of this? No, it was a minority of worthless fricks causing that.
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