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Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by mizslu314
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:27 pm to
Never thought I would hear a J'Mon Moore/Randal Grickuk comparison
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:30 pm to
Then there's hope. Gruchuk has looked better since he was sent down.

Maybe we should send J'mon down to Springfield for a couple weeks to work on his hands.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:41 pm to
J'Mon has drop issues at times and so did JMac when he was at Mizzou. Macklin didn't have the best hands in the world at the Zou, but he was electric after the catch. The problem is that Mizzou doesn't have the speedy dynamic receivers outside of their slot guys in Black, Mason, Johnson and Wingo.

My starting 4 would be Moore, Black, Mason and Johnson with Collins and Dilosa getting some clock. You can't run the Baylor wr splits without speed.
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:42 pm to
He's look a ton better since the call up. I was hesitant to use that comparison because Grichuk's been doing well and I think more highly of him than J'Mon.

But both electric talents with something missing between the ears.

I have a lot more faith in Grichuk figuring it out than J'Mon.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:14 pm to
I believe the problem is pressure. Moore makes most of his catches as any WR should. But when it's 3rd and 5 and everyone in the stadium and at home knows it's important, he drops the ball. It's mental in my opinion, but isn't that what separates the good from the great? In the clutch, the greats rise to the occasion.

I also read some Danario comments...DA could catch anything, anytime, he was just cursed with baby knees. He was a "Great" in the making. Big WR who didn't need a perfect pass to catch it regardless of the down and distance.
Posted by spytiger
Right Behind You
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Did people write off Danario and Bud in this manner at this point in their careers?


I don't recall either of them dropping passes like Moore does at this point.

I don't know about his junior year, but in his senior year Bud Sasser only dropped two passes all season. Moore dropped more than that in one game.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:43 pm to
He strikes me as the prototypical diva WR.

If he ever gets to the level that he thinks he's already at, look out.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 4:45 pm to
Bud dropped a lot of passes and was pretty inconsistent his JR year.

I recall yelling at the TV because of him.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 5:13 pm to
Jeremy Maclin was a 60%+ catch rate player both years he started at MU. Your starting QB doesn't complete 68% and 72% of his passes with the primary read dropping balls.

Marcus Lucas was over 55% every year of his career.

Sasser caught 59% as a Jr in 2013 and 62% in 2014.

J'Mon Moore was a 44% last year as the #1 read.

This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 5:50 pm to
80% of the time percentages are 65% relevant.

Anyone know J'Mon's WAR?

Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 7:55 pm to
You are 100% wrong and 50% relevant.
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:16 pm to
Just rewatched the game... Yea, I may have been giving J'Mon a lil more credit than he deserves with the drops

Those 2 slants in the 2nd quarter were some huge drops from a rhythm standpoint...
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:57 pm to
I always thought that it was Jimmie Hunt that had the dropsies, but maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 5:05 pm to
Remember the '14 SEC title game? Hunt played about the best game Ive ever seen a Mizzou WR play that day.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

He's right you know


jamons problem isn't his hands, it's between his ears

I think there may be something to this. IF he's catching well in practice and dropping in games, there's a mental component. At least in the instances where he has good separation. Whether it's handling pressure or something else, I don't know. But for the #1 target, I'd like to see more consistency.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with anything he's done off-field.
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

Remember the '14 SEC title game? Hunt played about the best game Ive ever seen a Mizzou WR play that day.


Hunt was on pace to have an outstanding Sr year until he got hurt in the loss to Indiana. He didn't play the next week vs SC and wasn't fully healed until the bye week after the UK game. He averaged 5 receptions per game and 23 yds per catch over the last 5 games of his career.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:06 pm to
Is that better or worse than 50% wrong and 100% relevant?
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:31 pm to
If you are trying to be witty, try harder.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:26 pm to

no

and

no
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
4975 posts
Posted on 9/8/16 at 6:45 am to
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