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If Kul is as good as gone, wouldn't it make sense to hire someone

Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:05 pm
who Kul specifically coached at Mizzou?

Wouldn't it make sense to hire a former Mizzou player to attempt to replicate Kul's coaching style?

Essentially, wouldn't it make sense to attempt to keep the Kul philosophy going at Mizzou?








This post was edited on 12/4/15 at 2:07 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:09 pm to
You go get the best DL coach you can get. The position should be attractive with the history we have there. Not too mention the players we have there now.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:27 pm to
We should hire coach Kul
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

We should hire coach Kul



It appears he's gone no matter what we offer...
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:54 pm to
Why would he stay when he knows Odom is going to have his hand on the defense and not give him total control. Plus, he and Odom aren't really that close.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 2:59 pm to
Why did Smart stay for nearly a decade as DC at BAMA. If Odom is really one of the brightest defensive minds in college football, which is something that people like GP have said, then there can be great benefit to staying.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:07 pm to
Sounds like he's butthurt. If he leaves. He leaves. It will suck, but what can you do?
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

If Odom is really one of the brightest defensive minds in college football, which is something that people like GP have said, then there can be great benefit to staying.



Kul is brighter...
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:00 pm to
I don't know about that. Just based on GP's actions, I think Kul is a fantastic DL coach. But maybe he lacks other characteristics that would make him a good DC. Pinkel passed him over for the DC role a least twice - when he promoted Steck and when he hired Odom. He obviously wanted to retain Kul, but not enough to give him the coordinator role. There has to be a reason.

I love Lul, would want him to stay and would like to give him the role and see if he can do it. His departure will leave a huge hole. But, Odom won't be lost without him.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:27 pm to
Yet we always criticized Pinkel for making poor decisions and failing to play the best person at each position.


See where I'm going, Semo?
Posted by pauliebleaker
Chesterfield
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:38 pm to
It seems to me coaching DL is about working with skills and teaching technique while DC is about overall strategy. Maybe pinkel and others didn't think Kul's skill set didn't fit for DC.

He will be great if he is coaching a line in the NFL. I wish him the best.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:51 pm to
I thought Kul wasn't going anywhere. Odom would be cutting his own throat letting Kul out of his grasp. He's what drives "Mizzou Made".
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 4:52 pm to
My criticism of Pinkel was more for his stubbornness, failing to make changes when something wasn't working.

Maybe paulie is right, and he believes Kul's skills aren't as well suited for a strategic role. So, fine, pay him what it takes to keep him, expand his role in some way. See what happens.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:20 pm to
Right. He's obviously great at teaching technique but who knows about his X and O ability?

That being said, Odom could help him with that if it's an issue.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:28 pm to
I'm sure they are trying like hell to keep him.

If he wants out then there isn't much you can do.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19236 posts
Posted on 12/4/15 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

My criticism of Pinkel was more for his stubbornness, failing to make changes when something wasn't working.


To me this was one of the highlights of Odom's press conference and interviews - he's going to be flexible.

He'll tailor to the offense to the personnel. Love it.
Posted by STL_MIZ
Member since Jul 2014
168 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:10 pm to
Justin Smith is someone to look at
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 12/5/15 at 11:45 pm to
Watch for Phil Pitts
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19236 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:54 am to
quote:

Watch for Phil Pitts


Looks like he and Odom are BFFs.

Pitts. Olivio. Odofile. This could quickly turn into another Friends of TLR staff.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 9:01 am to
I know BO worked with Ofodile before and I assume thy had a good working relationship. But I would have real issues bringing someone in staff who has been openly critical of the program. Weren't there some ugly things said about his son's recruitment and why he chose Oregon? Or am I dreaming?
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