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re: How Do You Guys Like The SEC After Joining
Posted on 1/3/15 at 3:37 pm to jafo
Posted on 1/3/15 at 3:37 pm to jafo
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I have always watched the SEC. Liked the SEC. Being my family and lineage is from Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee and Florida.
I identify with a lot of this. My heritage is Arkansas, Tennessee, alabama, and going back further, Virginia and South Carolina. My Parents were both and raised and northeast Arkansas, and both my brothers were born there. I watched SEC football growing up, and was also a razorback fan because of family ties. Mizzou going to the SEC just always felt right to me. The old Big 8 was great, but they let bevo ruin that, so I was ready for something new and the SEC was my choice all along. Best thing that could have happened, IMO. More money, better fans, better competition, better road trips, all of it.
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Posted on 1/3/15 at 4:01 pm to 5thTiger
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You cant tell me that the State of Missouri is in the Southeastern portion of the United States. The distance between the school played regularly is also important to me. Sure, the SEC has tradition and all that stuff, but it's not ours. We have our tradition with kansas, KState, Nebraska, etc.
I don't understand the sec boner everyone has. We screwed our Olympic athletes with the move. We don't get to play the beakers, and most of all, we are trying so hard to fit in when we obviously never will
Why try to fit in? We're the unwanted Midwestern house guest with the good jobs. Embrace the hate.
The SEC was clearly the right move. The only chance Missouri was going to have to build a national profile.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:10 pm to 5thTiger
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it destroyed all the rivalries we had.
Not going to pile on here. There were just some Mizzou fans who didn't like the move for one reason or another. I understand that. But Colorado and the Nubs started this with leaving to the B10. It was a smart move on Mizzou to leave and landed in one of the best Conferences in America. You can't say that after being in the SEC, it hasn't started to pull this program upwards. A lot of what's happened would not have happened if we hadn't left the Bevo12. Bevo destroyed the old SW conf. They are almost at that point again with the Bevo12. The leadership is crap and it's probably more unstable now than it was when we left it. They can't even crown a true conference champion that cost TCU or Baylor a shot at a playoff spot.
To me the quote above was the only thing I had against this move. The rivalry we had with Kansas that does still exist, it's just changed forms. Instead of competing on the field and court it's changed into a turf war over the KC area between the SEC and Bevo12. The rivalry no matter what anyone says around here still is intense and hatred between the schools is as alive and strong as ever. Something that old and that bad just doesn't die from a conference realignment. I see it every Mizzou day at the "K". I'll miss Aaron Crow in KC too by the way.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:28 pm to semotruman
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I identify with a lot of this. My heritage is Arkansas, Tennessee, alabama, and going back further, Virginia and South Carolina. My Parents were both and raised and northeast Arkansas, and both my brothers were born there. I watched SEC football growing up, and was also a razorback fan because of family ties. Mizzou going to the SEC just always felt right to me. The old Big 8 was great, but they let bevo ruin that, so I was ready for something new and the SEC was my choice all along. Best thing that could have happened, IMO. More money, better fans, better competition, better road trips, all of it.
What part of NW Arky are they from? Mine were from southern to central Arkansas and NW Arky around Brightwater and Rogers and some were around Pea Ridge area. Posted on 1/3/15 at 5:30 pm to pioneerbasketball
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pioneerbasketball
Thanks.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 6:20 pm to jafo
Well, to play Devil's Advocate, you can make a strong argument Mizzou doesn't belong in the SEC. I mean you guys win your bowl games.
I thought Mizzou and A&M were great additions to the conference when you joined and I still think that now. Frankly I'd rather play schools that when game week comes up want to sling some good natured trash talk at the other side and who don't think playing in the SEC for a hundred years automatically makes them superior to every other team in the country.
I thought Mizzou and A&M were great additions to the conference when you joined and I still think that now. Frankly I'd rather play schools that when game week comes up want to sling some good natured trash talk at the other side and who don't think playing in the SEC for a hundred years automatically makes them superior to every other team in the country.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 8:05 pm to jafo
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What part of NW Arky are they from?
Not NW, NE. From around Jonesboro, Paragould, Walnut ridge, that area.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:01 pm to semotruman
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From around Jonesboro, Paragould, Walnut ridge, that area.
Know the area well
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:04 pm to Jagd Tiger
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Mo isn't a "midwest" state, it isn't a northern state and it isn't a southern state, it's kinda like a combo pizza state. We wouldn't fit into the big 10 footprint any better although some would act like it's a much better fit than the SEC.
This is truth, MO has it's own feel due to the unique history of the state.
As I've stated before a lot of the folks that settled MO back in the early to mid 1800's came from Kentucky, TN, the Virginia's and N Carolina.
Many of these folks bought the farmlands along the Mo river and brought their slaves to help with clearing the land and cultivating crops, primarily tobacco and hemp.
If you look at some of the old homes in St Joseph, Kansas City, Jeff City and any of the other cities along the Mississippi and MO rivers you'll see the large columns associated with plantation style architecture.
There was also a strong French influence related to the fur trade along the MO river in the mid 1700's to early 1800's particularly around St Louis and St Joseph Mo which was founded by Joseph Robidoux a French fur trader.......oh yeah and Germans in the central part of the state running west of St Louis to around Jeff City, this area along the MO river was called Missouri Rhineland and was/is the center of viticulture in Missouri(growing grapes for wine).
Pretty cool place to check out in October especially around Hermann which hosts a annual wine fest.
Posted on 1/3/15 at 9:33 pm to pioneerbasketball
People think about geography entirely too much when it comes to college sports. I could see if everyone was still riding buses to games, but that's not the case.
Mizzou fits in the SEC just fine except for the name of the conference. Call the SEC the Big 14 ad everything is fine.
Same with the divisions. I'm tired of hearing about it.
Mizzou fits in the SEC just fine except for the name of the conference. Call the SEC the Big 14 ad everything is fine.
Same with the divisions. I'm tired of hearing about it.
This post was edited on 1/3/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:18 am to Mizzeaux
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People think about geography entirely too much when it comes to college sports.
it's not unimportant, take WVU... like Bevo did..
Posted on 1/4/15 at 10:15 am to semotruman
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Not NW, NE.
Doh! Sorry. Watching the game, flipping channels, running family history through my head, keeping dog from cat. All at same time!
NE it is. Buddy of mine, his wife is from around Paragould. Long drive from here, especially when it goes through Thayer,Mo. Used to race some MX in Thayer. Very rocky. Awesome country.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 11:05 am to pioneerbasketball
Not trying to be a jerk I guess but I get tired of people acting like Missouri is so much different than Arkansas or even Memphis really.
I live in the KC area. Things like food are not any different.
I lived in Arkansas, Memphis and Northern Mississippi. Wasn't that much different to me.
Once you get into what I call the deep south then you do see some difference. But Little Rock is just as different from Lower Alabama as Kansas City is.
Ok rant off....sorry about that. But sometimes I wonder if people have ever even been to Missouri.
The road games in the SEC are 10x better than the Big 12. The only thing that compares would be OU or TX. IMO the SEC has the best road game destinations in sports.
That really has less to do with the teams as it does with the cities. I would rather be in Nashville than Ames.
The SEC was the right move for Mizzou. I would have hated the Big 10. No desire to ever go to any of those places really.
The other best option would have been if we could have stayed in the Big 12 and Texas just went independant and everyone else had stayed but that wasn't gonna happen.
Looking forward to building a rivalry with Arkansas.
I live in the KC area. Things like food are not any different.
I lived in Arkansas, Memphis and Northern Mississippi. Wasn't that much different to me.
Once you get into what I call the deep south then you do see some difference. But Little Rock is just as different from Lower Alabama as Kansas City is.
Ok rant off....sorry about that. But sometimes I wonder if people have ever even been to Missouri.
The road games in the SEC are 10x better than the Big 12. The only thing that compares would be OU or TX. IMO the SEC has the best road game destinations in sports.
That really has less to do with the teams as it does with the cities. I would rather be in Nashville than Ames.
The SEC was the right move for Mizzou. I would have hated the Big 10. No desire to ever go to any of those places really.
The other best option would have been if we could have stayed in the Big 12 and Texas just went independant and everyone else had stayed but that wasn't gonna happen.
Looking forward to building a rivalry with Arkansas.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 12:09 pm to ford1911
That really is a good point, take away KC and Saint Louis and Missouri is not that different from Arkansas or Memphis.
Frankly Missouri brings a lot to the conference. It is a solid academic school, their sports programs fit in well, and everyone that has been up to Columbia says it is great college town.
Frankly Missouri brings a lot to the conference. It is a solid academic school, their sports programs fit in well, and everyone that has been up to Columbia says it is great college town.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:38 pm to jafo
Dirt track racing?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 4:11 pm to Arksulli
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That really is a good point, take away KC and Saint Louis and Missouri is not that different from Arkansas or Memphis.
STL and KC are so very different culturally. I don't mean this in a deragatory fashion at all but STL is a lot different from most of the rest of the state. To me it has way more of a midwestern/northern feel . The STL dialect is for sure differnt.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 4:17 pm to ford1911
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STL is a lot different from most of the rest of the state. To me it has way more of a midwestern/northern feel .
Do you, or have you ever lived in StL?
And I wonder, what do people mean by StL when they mention StL?
Do they mean the city proper?
Or do they incorporate the full metro area into their perception of the city?
St. Louis has an area that mirrors New Orleans.
St. Louis has a lot of Memphis in its blood, and vice versa.
Go to a Cardinal game and a lot of people have southernish accents.
Cardinal Cowboy? He's real.
St Louis isn't a southern city, but it's certainly not a northern one.
It's unique, it's special. I wish it was better understood.
If only I could host Anthony Bourdain in our fine town, then the world would know.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 4:29 pm to miz_zombie
Never lived in STL. Been to STL and literally work with hundreds of people that transferred jobs from STL. It's different IMO and the dialect is different from say KC area.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 4:29 pm to miz_zombie
STL is unique. But it's definitely Midwestern. In no way is it "Northeastern."
Posted on 1/4/15 at 4:31 pm to ford1911
"O's become a's"
This is a peculiarity of a small area of St. Louis. Someone who grew up in Florissant or West County won't say this. It's just South Countians.
This is a peculiarity of a small area of St. Louis. Someone who grew up in Florissant or West County won't say this. It's just South Countians.
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