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Hello fellow Battle Liners.

Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:53 pm
Just checking in to gauge the hatred and fervor surrounding this year's riveting football match.

So are any of you fine people, for whom I feel no animosity in spite of our shared state border (and coveted, not-at-all contrived trophy), coming to sit in the rain in Fayetteville?

It should be terribly wet and chilly.

I'll be there in a head to toe rain suit trying not to fight any of you IRL.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 5:59 pm to
I would also like to add that I am happy we kept the Friday time slot. There isn't much football on TV besides us, and little worth watching. It will be nice to be able to go to a game and catch all of the Saturday games, too.
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:14 pm to
No hate actually have family in Arkansas. Hopefully turns out to be a good game
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:17 pm to
I refuse to acknowledge this as a rivalry until they change that god awful name. "The Battle Line Rivalry" has to be the lamest name for a rivalry in CFB.

The trophy needs more work too. I know they tried to make it better but it still doesn't cut it. I wish they would stop trying so hard to make it look like the golden boot and for god's sake, get rid of that sponsor!
This post was edited on 11/25/15 at 6:27 pm
Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17289 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:24 pm to
Someone suggested "ArMoGeddon".
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:24 pm to
Our common hatred of the name and trophy are only serving to make us like each other more.

Posted by CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
Member since Dec 2014
17289 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:27 pm to
Bad news.CBS has assigned Carter Blackburn and Aaron Taylor the game again.Who are your radio announcers?
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:31 pm to
Chuck Barrett and Keef Jackson (OU).

So a guy who sounds like a heavily-sedated walrus, and an Arkansas guy who played ball under Switzer.

Here's a fun call for an example: LINK

Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:33 pm to
The hatred will grow, but you've run up against a pretty apathetic fanbase this go round.

You're going to cream us and I really don't care.

I'm way more interested in who our new coach is going to be.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19243 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:37 pm to

What about something in connection with this.

quote:

Missouri History

How did the state boundary of Missouri come to include the "Bootheel"?

The inclusion of the "bootheel" in the boundaries of Missouri has been credited to John Hardeman Walker, a landowner and influential citizen of southeast Missouri. Walker was born in Tennessee in 1794 and came to the New Madrid area of the Territory of Missouri at the age of sixteen. When the New Madrid earthquakes began a year later, in December 1811, many of the area's citizens moved away. Walker, however did not leave the area and his cattle-raising enterprise; instead he acquired more property and soon became known as the "Czar of the Valley." His extensive landholdings were located in Little Prairie, near present-day Caruthersville. This area fell under the jurisdiction of the Missouri Territory as administered from the town of New Madrid.

In January 1818, the United States Congress received the first petition requesting permission for the Missouri territory to organize a state government; other petitions were presented over the next couple of months. At that time, the southern boundary for Missouri was fixed at 36 ° 30 ¢. Walker and the people of Little Prairie realized this line would place their lands some twenty-five miles south of the Missouri border. Little Prairie would be under the jurisdiction of the Arkansas territorial government, not the state government of Missouri. Walker, who preferred the area, and his holdings, to be under the protection of Missouri state laws, lobbied in Missouri and Washington D.C. for inclusion of the "bootheel" within the boundaries of the state of Missouri.

On November 22, 1818, the territorial legislature adopted a memorial to the United States Congress for the admission of Missouri to the Union. The new memorial described a more extensive boundary than that proposed in the earlier petitions, fixing the boundaries to include the Little Prairie area as follows:

"Beginning at a point in the middle of the main channel of the Mississippi River at the 36 th degree of north latitude and running in a direct line to the mouth of the Black river, a branch of the White river; thence in the middle of the main channel of the White river to where the parallel of 36 degrees and 30 minutes north latitude crosses the same; thence with that parallel of latitude due west..."

The boundary outlined in this memorial was not adopted, but if it had been, the State of Missouri would have been much larger, including parts of southern Iowa, eastern Kansas, and northeastern Arkansas. The United States Congress amended the memorial boundaries, but agreed to include the area known as the "Bootheel" within the new state.

On March 6, 1820, when the Territory of Missouri requested admission to the Union with the modified boundary in the southeast corner, the request was granted. The Missouri Enabling Act describes the southern boundary as follows:

".Beginning in the middle of the Mississippi river, on the parallel of thirty-six degrees of north latitude; thence west, along that parallel of latitude, to the St. Francois river; thence up, and following the course of that river, in the middle of the main channel thereof, to the parallel of latitude of thirty-six degrees and thirty minutes; thence west, along the same, to a point where the said parallel is intersected by a meridian line passing through the middle of the mouth of the Kansas river ."

This acquisition increased the total area of Missouri by some 980 square miles (627,000 acres).


Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:39 pm to
Loser takes the bootheel for a year.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19243 posts
Posted on 11/25/15 at 6:49 pm to

Wow. The poverty in the bootheel is unbelievable. LINK

The only thing they aren't 50% of the Missouri state average in is mobile home values.
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:23 am to
I'll be at the game. Knowing we're gonna get drilled already won't make it so bad.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2766 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:41 am to
Most of my Arky friends are respectful. Whereas about every ku an is a dbag when sports comes up. I want to hate Arky, but I just can't hate them any more than anyone else we play.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 9:47 am to
I'm a proud Bootheel Boy. Grew-up there a long time ago. It was a super place to be a kid. We played football against a few Ar-kansas and tenny teams. Let's just say the officiating had a local flavor and nothing the refs did ever surprised me.

Sure, there are poor people. There are some very wealthy farmers too. And a bunch of people in-between. I've lived all over the state of MO and traveled to 45 states. There are pockets of poverty and wealth everywhere.

To JQ and Miz-SEC: It if makes y'all feel like big guys, better and important, go ahead and put-down other good people. These are my people and I don't appreciate it.

A few years back I was playing golf. I asked a threesome if I could join them. They had gone to a private high school in StL (StL thing). They noticed my southern draw and asked where I was from. Their HS had played my little hometown in the state playoffs several times. They immediately respected my school and me after that exchange. Then I proceeded to kick their proud StL arse on the course and take their dollars.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 10:06 am
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19243 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:30 am to

I won't speak for Jesus, but I meant no disrespect to the people of the bootheel.

I like the idea that Walker had enough pull to get Washington DC to add the boot to Missouri.

As for the survey I posted, I found it weird that everything in the bootheel was 50% lower (including cost of living things like rent) - except for mobile home values which were like 33% higher. And I'm still befuddled as to why that one item is different.

At any rate, if I inadvertently offended you I apologize.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 10:35 am to
No offense, I was just kidding.

I have some extended family in the bootheel and they are true blue, salt of the earth types. Good people.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 12:46 pm to
Happy Thanksgiving gents!
Posted by MizzouPhoto
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2015
101 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:04 pm to

If Missouri were to cede the bootheel to Arkansas, the net effect would be to raise the average IQ in both States by about 14 points.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/26/15 at 8:17 pm to
Glad some Mizzou fans are coming down, hope you have a great time.


I for one don't think we need a rivalry, the stuff that happens between Bama & Aubie or even you guys and Kansas does not look fun.

Happy Thanksgiving!
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