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re: Harneet Gill

Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:27 pm to
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I'm not going to get upset if we don't thoroughly recruit STL anymore. It's never really been a hotbed of talent, and a lot of these dudes seem less ready to compete than those from the western side of the state.


That would not be smart.

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However, the bs that gets spewed forth from a lot of the STL media has been happening for years, and it makes zero sense.


Are you even in St. Louis? Have you read any of Dave Matter's articles? Frankly he is STL media when it comes to Mizzou sports and frankly he blows the doors off any one in COMO or KC or Springfield or anywhere.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:32 pm to
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Are you even in St. Louis? Have you read any of Dave Matter's articles? Frankly he is STL media when it comes to Mizzou sports and frankly he blows the doors off any one in COMO or KC or Springfield or anywhere.



Matter is the shite, and I think him moving east will make a big difference. However, in this world of waning print media viewership/subscriptions, the sports talk radio world is kind, and I think that's where Mizzou fails. I'm not in the markets, so I'm not sure, but it seems like Mizzou should have a much better "homerism" factor than it does considering the journalism and broadcast journalism school.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:35 pm to
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I think it was Gill that wanted to be more aggressive than the MU training staff.

I missed that - I thought it was just him being critical. The staff was calling it a minor injury, no big deal - then the next day he leaves the team? The whole thing is just bizarre.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:36 pm to
I agree. We need the whole state. We need the top talent in STL. We need the top talent in KC. We need the top talent in COMO. We need the top talent from all the smaller towns. Unfortunately, this year STL is going all over the place and KC is going to KSU and Neb. Mizzou is getting better media coverage in STL than ever. Paylor is doing a good job in KC. Not sure who has the COMO beat now. Media will be no excuse. Coaching, winning and salesmanship will be the key.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:53 pm to
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Matter is the shite, and I think him moving east will make a big difference. However, in this world of waning print media viewership/subscriptions, the sports talk radio world is kind, and I think that's where Mizzou fails. I'm not in the markets, so I'm not sure, but it seems like Mizzou should have a much better "homerism" factor than it does considering the journalism and broadcast journalism school.


First, online stuff probably is just as big as radio these days and Matter has been updating his blog regularly. Second, the sports radio in STL is an ever changing landscape. The FM sports channel(ESPN) sucks. It is all pro coverage all the time. KFNS, where I think Cusamano is, is no longer a sports station, but man talk that includes some sports. For example, Bubba the Love Sponge has the morning drive time I think. Some sportscasters/radio guys and maybe others had wanted to buy their own station and I think they have. 920 is a brand new station and that is where Matter contributes along with Gabe. I've had trouble picking up their signal and even streaming them. Hopefully they pick up signal strength and pick up steam before the season because its a format change for them going to sports.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
13894 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 8:57 pm to
That's really weird. I assumed sports talk was picking up everywhere. Hell, even in Vegas we have a great ESPN station that's on AM that just moved to a simulcast on FM with 8 hours of local programming in addition to a Fox Sports with local stuff and a couple other fringe stations with local programming. We got at least three hours of UNLV coverage during basketball season, and nobody gives a shite about UNLV

We don't even have pro sports. I'm sure STL will pick it up soon. It seems like sports talk is really gaining steam.

Then again, there's 2 million people betting on pro and college sports every day, so it may be a bigger sports town than it seems.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 9:16 pm to
Sports talk is big here, it's just ever changing. ESPN on the FM has been pretty constant of a couple few years now but they have ex-pro athletes hosting the local shows so Rams and Cardinals get a lot of play. Plus, SLU has their basketball games on that station. It seems the AM stations change their format about every 5 years and this happens to be that time. The sports station with the same hosts float around on the AM dial but they pop up somewhere.
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
4683 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:03 pm to
Not sure why this is such a big deal.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 8/5/13 at 10:24 pm to
Matter is great. He is a definite step in the right direction. Lord knows Gregorian sucked.

Mizzou alum Jeff Gordon enjoys taking pot shots, as does that other knucklehead Joe Strauss.

The STL area has wasted too many years with youth soccer. That's all anyone played when I was a kid. I don't recall any youth football leagues.

As far as recruiting STL goes, of course we have to, and we definitely need to be sure and get the cant miss guys. I just think we have more success with lower rated guys from other states, mainly because the level of football being played is better than the product on the field in the metro area.

If there were 30 BCS level recruits in Missouri, which is a lot, I'd say that on average only 7-10 of them are guys that make any sort of an impact. Do some digging, the list of guys from STL that never make it in a BCS program for all 4 years is long.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:38 am to
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Not sure why this is such a big deal.


It isn't. It is just offseason talk because fans get stupid when things are slow.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 10:37 am to
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It isn't. It is just offseason talk because fans get stupid when things are slow.


This x1000
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:37 pm to
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Frank "I love Mizzou!" Cusamano did a piece on this. Of course the angle was to bash Mizzou and make Harneet seem like this angelic like victim and Mizzou as the terrible step parent that refused to treat his injury.


For whatever it's worth, was in the car in the morning and then again just now. On both occasions the new sports station 920 were talking Mizzou football and talking positive. The Gill deal came up and both times, Mizzou was put in a good light. Talked about Maclin, Josey, Moe(same injury) and Alexander among others as examples of how well Mizzou handles injuries and rehab.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
The more I hear, the more I'm convinced Gill came in, saw the competition and how tough it was going to be, knew his foot was still bothering him, and wimped out.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 1:53 pm to
Moe pretty much called him out as a pussy. I haven't read his comments, but apparently Moe talked about how he had the same injury/surgery and fought through some of the pain because he wanted to be on the field. Without saying it, certainly implying that Gill wasn't cut out for it. At least that's how the hosts were playing it.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:00 pm to
Yes, he did. Moe basically said there are reasons why guys now in the pros come back to Columbia and Dr. Pat Smith to have surgery. Apparently he had Dr. Smith repair his torn Achilles. He talked about Mizzou's record with injuries - Maclin, Alexander, Josey, himself - and said our staff was fantastic. So yes, basically, he called him out without calling him a pussy.
Posted by MizzouSEC2012
MIZZOU STUDENT SECTION
Member since Sep 2012
3621 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:29 pm to
Harnett Gill is a dumb mother ********* for dragging Mizzou through the mud because he couldn't cut it and didn't want to put in any work and sounds like he just wanted to be handed a job wihtout having to compete. Pat Smith fixed Henry Josey's devastating knee inury and has him ready to play at 100 percent a year later after tearing his ACL, MCL, Patell tendon. He had James Franklin phsyically ready to play after labrum surgery last year, it just seems like maybe mentally Franklin wasn't ready to trust his shouldar and played scared. I'm sure there many more examples so what gives this 18 year old s*** who thinks the world revolves around him attitude the right to question our training staff and coaches who although may lack in other areas make them look bad to potential future recruits. F***** you Harnett Gill Kansas awaits good luck
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27433 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:32 pm to
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The more I hear, the more I'm convinced Gill came in, saw the competition and how tough it was going to be, knew his foot was still bothering him, and wimped out.


...and then tried to drag Mizzou and its staff through the mud to cover his pussy arse.

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