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Gotta love it. One of the biggest choke jobs I've ever seen.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:10 pm
I seriously will not watch this team play one single game in post-season. Can't deal with them anymore. No heart. They need to go get tape of every SLU game and watch it if they want to see how basketball is truly played.
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Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:27 pm to reedus23
Un-effing-believable.
Bowers looked absolutely awful. Maybe he got hooked up with Pressey's bookie. Brown disappeared, per usual, away from home. Ross wasn't in the game at crunch time.
And with about 10 minutes left, Pressey just started running around, running the high post with no point and no passes to the wings.
Bowers looked absolutely awful. Maybe he got hooked up with Pressey's bookie. Brown disappeared, per usual, away from home. Ross wasn't in the game at crunch time.
And with about 10 minutes left, Pressey just started running around, running the high post with no point and no passes to the wings.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:29 pm to reedus23
I share your pain. 
My only consolation is that it won't matter that I can't watch Sunday final game. I will be in a conceal and carry class for 8 hours.
No smackin'.......I'm soon packin'
It takes real strength of character to be a Mizzou fan
My only consolation is that it won't matter that I can't watch Sunday final game. I will be in a conceal and carry class for 8 hours.
No smackin'.......I'm soon packin'
It takes real strength of character to be a Mizzou fan
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:30 pm to Bogie00
I'm going to take my conceal carry in a couple of weeks.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:32 pm to the808bass
I put it on Haith too. I swear from about the 14 minute mark on, they stopped playing. I said they went into GP mode. When GP has a lead, he doesn't keep the foot on the gas. He plays not to lose, figuring in the amount of time left, the other team can score 3 times so if we just stop playing we'll still win by 1 instead of 22. Seemed the same way tonight. Started playing hesitant and not to lose instead of attacking. Part of that has to go on Haith as well as all the players.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:39 pm to reedus23
I am such a glutton for punishment, think I will wander over to TB and soak up some more 
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:42 pm to Bogie00
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I am such a glutton for punishment, think I will wander over to TB and soak up some more
Enjoy that. TB has the pitchforks out for Haith right now.
Posted on 3/15/13 at 11:47 pm to Cratebeast
There's a lot of blame to go around. Bottom line simply is that this is an underachieving team. Just is what it is.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:07 am to reedus23
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There's a lot of blame to go around. Bottom line simply is that this is an underachieving team. Just is what it is.
I really like watching them play, and they seem like good character young men. I feel bad for how they must be feeling. They still have a shot at living up to their potential. Hope I can do the same as a fan.
This calls for a self-imposed TO from message sports boards, some R & R and my CCW
This post was edited on 3/16/13 at 12:33 am
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:13 am to Bogie00
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I really like watching them play, and they seem like good character young men. I feel bad for how they must be feeling. They still have a shot at living up to their potential. Hope I can do the same as a fan.
Don't worry, Phil says we're gonna win it all!
Vahe Gregorian ?@vgregorian
Pressey says Miz will have no confidence issues going forward, "next game" in NCAA "is for all the marbles ... We're going in to win it all"
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:14 am to Bogie00
Oh I think they're character young men. I just don't think they play to the level of their talent. Sometimes teams are just like that. Doesn't mean they're bad people. I truly doubt they will live up to their potential though Bogie. They have the talent and potential to be a Final Four team. I'll take getting out of the first round at this point. 
Posted on 3/16/13 at 12:27 am to Cratebeast
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Don't worry, Phil says we're gonna win it all!
Disconnect.
Sweet Lord. Shut up, Phil. Quit pretending to lead this team. I'm not sure you even like them.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 1:18 am to reedus23
Yeah. Don't like this team.
I fully expect a first round loss, which means they'll go to the Elite 8.
I fully expect a first round loss, which means they'll go to the Elite 8.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 8:58 am to Mizzeaux
Do they make it into the tournament?
Posted on 3/16/13 at 9:11 am to outlawjoseywales
yes they make it into the tourney but i dont have high hopes at all we just seem to be beating a dead horse with this one... :beatdeadhorse:
Posted on 3/16/13 at 3:43 pm to TrueSon2014
Plenty of reasons for that loss, but one big one was Haith getting outcoached big time. Not trying to be negative, but this was eating at me all day at work today and maybe it will help to list them out!
1. See how Ole Miss had 2 physical post players get 2 fouls a piece early in the 2nd half, but yet they rotated in, kept playing and held a deficit that should have been 12-15 to only 7 at the half. Yet every time Bowers and AO get in foul trouble early, they sit the entire half. Typically they pick up 1 more foul rest of the game, and we just took 15 minutes of possessions away from our team strength. I don't get it, especially Bowers who plays a lot on the perimeter, you really cant try to let him play through it?
2. When the other team is taking a huge risk by playing posts in foul trouble, and you have 2 good offensive post up players, they should get a post up touch every possession. Eventually you are going to draw a HUGE 3rd foul, or their player will have to play weak D and give up great looks.
3.Again we went to the stall/burn offense way too early, something we are not good at. We should not even think about doing this at the 5 minute mark, much less at 8 or 9 minutes like last night. We are not good at it, especially when we don't run sets and expect Flip to get creative and bail us out.
4. in the last 2:30 of the game each team took 2 timeouts. After the Ole Miss timeouts they got a layup on a great play design, and a play ran for their best player who passed it off for an even better shot. After our 2 timeouts we ran high ball screens for Flip like every other play. This makes the rest of the team stand around and become passive while letting Ole Miss get away with not having to work to defend. We should be running sets, setting screens, and see if anything easy opens up first.
5. with 29 seconds left in a tie game with a timeout in your pocket, you should never attempt a high risk deep pass like Bowers did even if Bell did communicate with him. Its a high risk play with zero reward cause even if it works we wouldn't score right away cause you have to hold for last shot. The coach should tell the inbounder to run the baseline, count to 4, and if nobody gets open call a timeout and draw up another inbound. Again we do not screen off the ball enough so this never happened.
Sorry for the way too long of a rant but as a coach that game was brutal to watch last night. That being said we still are as talented as almost anyone in the country and all the pressure is now off because we have lost so many games to kill any hype or expectations. Depending on the draw we could do some damage and save this season.
1. See how Ole Miss had 2 physical post players get 2 fouls a piece early in the 2nd half, but yet they rotated in, kept playing and held a deficit that should have been 12-15 to only 7 at the half. Yet every time Bowers and AO get in foul trouble early, they sit the entire half. Typically they pick up 1 more foul rest of the game, and we just took 15 minutes of possessions away from our team strength. I don't get it, especially Bowers who plays a lot on the perimeter, you really cant try to let him play through it?
2. When the other team is taking a huge risk by playing posts in foul trouble, and you have 2 good offensive post up players, they should get a post up touch every possession. Eventually you are going to draw a HUGE 3rd foul, or their player will have to play weak D and give up great looks.
3.Again we went to the stall/burn offense way too early, something we are not good at. We should not even think about doing this at the 5 minute mark, much less at 8 or 9 minutes like last night. We are not good at it, especially when we don't run sets and expect Flip to get creative and bail us out.
4. in the last 2:30 of the game each team took 2 timeouts. After the Ole Miss timeouts they got a layup on a great play design, and a play ran for their best player who passed it off for an even better shot. After our 2 timeouts we ran high ball screens for Flip like every other play. This makes the rest of the team stand around and become passive while letting Ole Miss get away with not having to work to defend. We should be running sets, setting screens, and see if anything easy opens up first.
5. with 29 seconds left in a tie game with a timeout in your pocket, you should never attempt a high risk deep pass like Bowers did even if Bell did communicate with him. Its a high risk play with zero reward cause even if it works we wouldn't score right away cause you have to hold for last shot. The coach should tell the inbounder to run the baseline, count to 4, and if nobody gets open call a timeout and draw up another inbound. Again we do not screen off the ball enough so this never happened.
Sorry for the way too long of a rant but as a coach that game was brutal to watch last night. That being said we still are as talented as almost anyone in the country and all the pressure is now off because we have lost so many games to kill any hype or expectations. Depending on the draw we could do some damage and save this season.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 4:47 pm to TigerinUGA
Good stuff Tiger. I was talking with my brother about many of the same things. Not really in context of how Haith doesn't let his bigs play wit 2 fouls but more along the lines of your 2nd point. Once we had 2 fouls on Holloway, I don't think we tried very hard to work the ball back inside again at all. Really didn't understand that because you're right, getting a 3rd on them would have been huge. And it's not like there weren't timeouts/TV timeouts for him to lay that out to the team. The 2 fouls were relatively early like you said and they continued to get minutes in the first half.
Really can't stand the "prevent" type of offense ever until the last minute or two of a game. I actually picked up a lack of aggression in their game as early as the 14 minute mark, and a definite "prevent" type game from just under 10 til the end of the game. Just not smart.
Also couldn't agree more with a complete inability to draw up an inbounds play coming out of timeouts. It's been a problem all year long. Their idea of an inbound play against a press is to stand in one place and pass it to the open space and hope your team mate can get to it first. Obviously didn't work last night. What was strange about that last inbound play is that frankly, neither of our guys really moved. Not to set up a pass, not to get open first. Just nothing.
I certainly don't put that game on any one of the players. Pressey didn't go nuts. Bowers was just one ill advised pass that he probably knew better, but didn't have a lot of options (other than the timeout). No real foul problems that cost us. I'd agree, last night is chalked up to being out coached.
Really can't stand the "prevent" type of offense ever until the last minute or two of a game. I actually picked up a lack of aggression in their game as early as the 14 minute mark, and a definite "prevent" type game from just under 10 til the end of the game. Just not smart.
Also couldn't agree more with a complete inability to draw up an inbounds play coming out of timeouts. It's been a problem all year long. Their idea of an inbound play against a press is to stand in one place and pass it to the open space and hope your team mate can get to it first. Obviously didn't work last night. What was strange about that last inbound play is that frankly, neither of our guys really moved. Not to set up a pass, not to get open first. Just nothing.
I certainly don't put that game on any one of the players. Pressey didn't go nuts. Bowers was just one ill advised pass that he probably knew better, but didn't have a lot of options (other than the timeout). No real foul problems that cost us. I'd agree, last night is chalked up to being out coached.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 7:37 pm to reedus23
I just can't blame Haith really. I mean how many coaches could take so many new and different parts, put them together and still have a decent season in only thier second year with the program.
Mizzou's shooting just went cold in the end. They stopped attacking the rim with the big guys. Bowers needed to just drive the basket ball instead of settling for outside shots too. The defense also failed in the end.
But I'll give credit to Henderson. Thier team will be in trouble when he's gone. I don't like the guy as a person but respect him as a player. He's good when he's on and he was on last night.
I'll watch the ncaa tourny whether they lose or not, they have some time to correct their weaknesses.
Mizzou's shooting just went cold in the end. They stopped attacking the rim with the big guys. Bowers needed to just drive the basket ball instead of settling for outside shots too. The defense also failed in the end.
But I'll give credit to Henderson. Thier team will be in trouble when he's gone. I don't like the guy as a person but respect him as a player. He's good when he's on and he was on last night.
I'll watch the ncaa tourny whether they lose or not, they have some time to correct their weaknesses.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 7:44 pm to jafo
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I just can't blame Haith really. I mean how many coaches could take so many new and different parts, put them together and still have a decent season in only thier second year with the program.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of some of his in-game strategy, but that happens with pretty much any coach. I think Haith has done a solid job of cleaning up the recruiting mess; he managed to find us enough depth that losing Dixon didn't cripple us. I think next year will be very telling of how he's going to fare.
Posted on 3/16/13 at 7:48 pm to jafo
I'm by no way suggesting Haith has to go jafo, but I really don't think it was a well coached game. And yes, overall, it has to be kept in mind that this is a patchwork team because of MA's refusal to recruit. However, the things talked about don't have much to do with who is actually on the court. Haith will obviously get his chance and we should know more next year when we have more of his own players.
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