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re: Four Mizzou athletes (NOT DGB) Arrested for Pot

Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:09 pm to
Seriously. In Birmingham or Baton Rouge everybody would have got a chauffered ride home and a complementary lighter
Posted by TigerNick23
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:12 pm to
Haith said. “We’ve got a program here and we have high standards we expect from our student-athletes, so no it’s not going to factor into any of that. We’re going to make decisions based on what is right for the development of our program.”

Haith didn’t directly say when he knew about the arrests of Clark and Rector other than to say he “didn’t know about it soon enough.”
Is it too late to revoke our invitation to the NIT? So apparently our players can't be honest about an arrest, and say "Hey coach just thought I would let you know I was arrested over the weekend" No wonder there wasn't any fricking chemistry on the court this season
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:15 pm to
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So apparently our players can't be honest about an arrest, and say "Hey coach just thought I would let you know I was arrested over the weekend" No wonder there wasn't any fricking chemistry on the court this season


If they were just detained/cited and weren't actually arrested I don't see an issue. I wouldn't expect them to report if they got a parking ticket, and essentially that's what a marijuana possession citation should be in Columbia based on the city law.

Whether or not it was in this case is another issue.

ETA: I'll admit I have little/no knowledge of the athletic department's policy of athletes reporting citations to the proper people, so there may be an issue with violation of team policy concerning the players not reporting the citation.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by TigerNick23
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 4:30 pm to
Simple possession isn't a big deal, but

possession /=/ parking ticket

The fact it's a part of athletic department policy, and they were suspended means it's against the rules. Knowing you violated an athletic department policy, and waiting for the coach to find out about it in the media/court means you're above the program or really stupid.


This tells me players are bound to report possible violations


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Haith didn’t directly say when he knew about the arrests of Clark and Rector other than to say he “didn’t know about it soon enough.”

This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 4:32 pm
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 5:19 pm to
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Wes Clark, Shane Rector, Aarion Penton, and Shuan Rupert were arrested Saturday night on suspicion of possession of 35 grams or less of marijuana.


See what Colorado doesn't have to deal with? Just legalize it already. It's harmless.
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Tom Sawyer
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:19 pm to
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See what Colorado doesn't have to deal with? Just legalize it already. It's harmless.

agreed
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Shane Rector

damn near killed her
Posted by Mizzoufan26
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:26 pm to
As harmless as it may been and has always been it's still illegal. Just as I may feel hey, sometimes you should be able to punch a cop, it's still illegal.

It's not a hard thing to abstain from either and these kids need to stop making bad choices due to it
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 6:54 pm to
It is only illegal because the government has somehow pulled off the biggest brainwashing act of all time with their propaganda. The kids aren't the problem, the rules are. Change them. But yeah, since it is still against the rules they should probably be smarter about where they toke up next time.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:02 pm to
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Just as I may feel hey, sometimes you should be able to punch a cop, it's still illegal.



Really awful analogy.

quote:

As harmless as it may been and has always been it's still illegal.


This kind of attitude enables bad laws to remain laws.

If everyone reacted to this kind of story in a way that expressed disapproval with the law, instead of the offenders, it would go a long way in correcting the law.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:05 pm to
Haith has had his two puffs, time to pass him to the left...
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 7:06 pm
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 7:58 pm to
They were pulled over because of the plates but searched because the cops smelled the weed when the driver opened the window.

Pot should be legal. I smoke almost every night. However, I don't drive high, and I sure as hell wouldn't be in a car with expired plates and people burning.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:08 pm to
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Shane Rector
quote:

damn near killed her



Laughed.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:29 pm to
That's fine, that is your personal opinion that it should be legal. Law states that it is not though. University athletic law states that it is not though.

No matter how your opinion plays into this that doesn't detract from binding law
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:50 pm to
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Simple possession isn't a big deal, but possession /=/ parking ticket

They have the option of wether to cite you or arrest you. Either way it's supposed to go to muni court which means 250 fine and no record. So it's closer to reckless driving
Posted by TigerNick23
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 8:55 pm to
Until someone gets killed
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:14 pm to
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Until someone gets killed



Unless it's a drug deal gone wrong the probability of someone getting killed based on Marijuana is pretty slim.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 3/17/14 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

That's fine, that is your personal opinion that it should be legal. Law states that it is not though. University athletic law states that it is not though.

No matter how your opinion plays into this that doesn't detract from binding law



Your rebuttal to my counter was a repeat of your first point, so how is that actually a rebuttal to what I said?

It's okay to think it shouldn't be legal, I don't agree with that but it's your choice to have that opinion if you give reasons for why it should be illegal.

But this stance is just really not acceptable -- 'oh well, it's the law, it doesn't matter if it's a dumb law, you must follow it'. It's such a limp stance. That attitude enables the confutation of bad laws and impedes progress.

When situations like this happen people need to point their fingers at the dumb laws instead of the dumb kids (even though it's very clear that driving around with expired plates while smoking weed is moronic).
This post was edited on 3/17/14 at 10:01 pm
Posted by URHatinIt
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:18 pm to
oh fun
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:18 pm to
Personal belief, marijuana should be legalized. It's not. Whether you think athletes should participate in civil disobedience or not, it does show a character flaw on their part or at least a flaw in their decision making process. They know the law, they chose to break the law. Again, I personally believe athletes are to be held to a higher standard, so that factors into my beliefs as well.

If it's a bad law, take the whole damn basketball team down to Jeff City and have them sit on the steps until the change the law. Deciding to light one up as you're driving around on expired plates is not how you change bad laws.

Now having said all that, I will also say, I wish the cops in COMO would light up and lighten up themselves a bit. Yes, they broke the law but damn, relax a bit.

And I haven't looked it up lately so I don't know if it has changed, but I know that, technically, in the past you could be arrested for a simple speeding ticket, so I'm sure you can be arrested for possession as well, regardless of the amount, unless all that has changed. The reality is that no cop arrests you for a speeding ticket because it's a huge waste of time and you're going to be released without having to post bond anyways. Much the same with possession charges.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 3/17/14 at 10:24 pm to
They did arrest them. FWIW the same arrest report sites people violating the noise ordinance. It will still be a fine and no record. I too wish they would relax. but they are cops
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