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re: FBI arrests several college hoops coaches

Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:15 am to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:15 am to
As long as there is recruiting, there will be cheating in recruiting. No matter what way you try to structure it.
Posted by flash80
Florida
Member since Aug 2016
141 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:19 am to
Yes i agree, they are not poor little used up commodities like some whiners want to portray them as. They are getting top notch medical care, food, free housing, stipends (now), and what is the most valuable, a free college education worth sometimes 10's of thousands of dollars.

All they have to do is play sports and hopefully stay out of trouble for all that. They are getting so much for their athletic efforts its ridiculous.

Compare that to the single mom with two kids who is struggling to pay bills, or the kid from the poor neighborhood on his own...they have to work two jobs and feed her children while scraping by to maybe afford (6) credits a semester (if that is even possible). She would love all the things these college athletes receive and she

They are compensated justly for their efforts, there is no need to may them.Saying that the colleges make a fortune they need paid more is not a legitimate argument. Same could be said for and big industry and low wage people get what they get, ultimately it doesnt matter much how successful or rich the company is getting, the employees will earn what they are designated to earn.

Looking at college athletes as employees, they are receiving so much already for their efforts. What they are designated to get is more than enough for their efforts, its ludicrous to think they need paid a salary as well.
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:24 am to
Auburn is fricked
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:32 am to
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They are compensated justly for their efforts, there is no need to may them.


This is true for most non revenue athletes. It’s not true for the top football and basketball players. MPJ will make the university over $1 million just this year. Free school, free medical care and a few thousand dollars in a stipend is not fair compensation.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5252 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:48 am to
Paying athletes will not stop the bag men.. Face if say every SEC school could pay athletes $1500 a month then you know some programs would still find a way to get more to them.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 12:01 pm to
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Paying athletes will not stop the bag men..


So you believe there should be no laws?

Sure there will always be rule/law breakers, but you can also set up a system to better compensate the athletes going to school. College sports is a big business, it’s ok to better compensate the people doing the work.
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 2:05 pm to
Sounds like The Soprano's. All assistant coaches. "Don't deal with me directly deal with my CAPO's"
Posted by Mizzou23
Missouri
Member since Mar 2012
1979 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:28 pm to
Here is my argument against paying athletes who get free tuition.

DGB was able to attend TWO colleges for free. Have you met the kid? Im surprised he is allowed to eat with a fork. Yet somehow he was able to maintain grades to attend Mizzou and OU.

On the other hand, my friend Kathryn scored a 31 on her ACT but had to file multiple appeals to get just fasfa to go through so she could take 9 hours from home through MSU because she can't afford to pay someone to watch her daughter.

You dont like the way the system is set up? Do what Brandon Jennings did. Go get paid. But don't be all high and mighty.

The real changes that need to be made is where the money goes to. It SHOULD be funneled back to more scholarships. And in basketball, guys like MPJ should not be forced to go through a year of school. It is pointless. He should have been drafted this year. Change the one and done rule. I would like a system similar to MLB for the draft. You can either go right out of HS OR stay for three years (which with hard work you can knock out a degree in that time).
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:43 pm to
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And in basketball, guys like MPJ should not be forced to go through a year of school.

That’s on the NBA, not the NCAA. If I was advertising these players I would send them to Europe, where players like MPJ could make 4-5 million.

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MSU because she can't afford to pay someone to watch her daughter.


How much does your friend make for the university? That’s why you pay athletes. Fair value based on the amount of money they bring into the university.

Non revenue sports a scholarship is enough. Football and basketball make universities a lot of money. There are ways to make it work.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 3:49 pm to
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Football and basketball make universities a lot of money.


At some schools. At most schools, the AD is already losing money.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:15 pm to
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At some schools. At most schools, the AD is already losing money.



I would bet that at all P5/6 universities both football and basketball are profitable.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:30 pm to
Which means nothing to my point.

Once you get to around the 20th ranked athletic departments in revenue, you see some in the red. Florida state, Iowa, Washington, Illinois. Those programs were in the red with the current set up.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 4:40 pm to
Then allow athletes to profit off of themselves. The pay doesn’t even have to be from the universities.
There are several local businesses in Columbia that would be happy to have a guy like Phillips endorse their business.

There are ways to properly pay an athlete, based on the market.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:11 am to
Say goodbye to Louisville AD and Ricky Pitino. Always hated that whiny mofo.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:54 am to
Ramey and Gordon are going to look good in Black and Gold
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:37 pm to
Underwood could perhaps be in some trouble at Illinois
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:55 pm to
I hope Haith is involved, slimy frick
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:23 pm to
With so much going on, should we be worried?

Although we are just Missouri to some, we do have the best player in the country which could have some teams to start pointing attention in our direction.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:08 pm to
Unless hiring his Dad became illegal we should be fine. We had by the book Kim for the last 3 years.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:12 pm to
Yeah. We’ve only been cheating for a few months. Should be good.
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