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Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:25 am to
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:25 am to
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Please, please, please do not hire Odom. DC first HC jobs in power 5 conferences don't go well. Let Odom go get some experience first and develop a "process."



Worked pretty good for Bob Stoops, Bert, Dabo, & Chip Kelly.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:37 am to
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Worked pretty good for Bob Stoops, Bert, Dabo, & Chip Kelly.


Yep, but how about Woody's frickin' Wagon, Lane Kiffin, Greg Robinson & Will Muschamp.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:47 am to
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Petrino isn't coming here. We aren't talking to him. I don't want him. I'm not sure there's anyone in an administration position who wouldn't laugh at the suggestion.

Everyone is missing the comedy gold PLUS he's a great HC. Can you imagine the next FemNazi that says "we need some muscle over here" and Bobby's reply is "did someone call?"
This post was edited on 11/20/15 at 10:48 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:47 am to
Hiring a head coach is like buying a used car. There's simply nothing risk free about it. And there's no foolproof method of doing it.

Alabama has hired some bad coaches. So has Nebraksa. So has Michigan. We won't be immune to that. That's life.

Alden caught lightning in a bottle in Pinkel. No one could've dreamed of the success he'd ultimately bring to us. Let's just hope lightning strikes twice.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:57 am to
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Petrino isn't coming here. We aren't talking to him. I don't want him. I'm not sure there's anyone in an administration position who wouldn't laugh at the suggestion.


Realistically, that's a fact. Not sure on the laughing part but yeh there's really not a snowballs chance in hell they even consider Petrino. That's a shame.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 10:57 am to
no risk = fold program.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3475 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:16 am to
I hope Rhoades at least chats with Calhoun over a jumbo or two.

I recall reading about him some time back...and thinking he's a lifer at the academy (been there ~10 yrs), so don't know if he'd leave.

He's had some excellent success, especially with the difficult recruiting a military commitment adds.

Certainly worth considering.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5362 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:22 am to
You just made my point...you listed OFFENSIVE COACHES, Odom if DEFENSE. DC's don't work, I didn't say OS's.
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3475 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:41 am to
In Rhoades' presser, he was strong that he wanted a "CEO" type...that HCs don't coach on the field, they coach their coaches. He also stressed he wants proven "leadership."

All this sounds to me like he's looking hard at/for someone with HC experience (despite his disclaimer that he'd entertain the idea of an assistant).
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 11:47 am to
quote:

You just made my point...you listed OFFENSIVE COACHES, Odom if DEFENSE. DC's don't work, I didn't say OS's.


Stoops wasn't an offensive coach

What about Dantonio, wasn't MSU his first HC job?
Posted by STL_MIZ
Member since Jul 2014
168 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:10 pm to
If it can't be Herman or Fuente, then Patterson or bust. We badly need offense and TCU's offense has been absolutely deadly in his reign
Posted by ShowMeState
Member since Mar 2013
26 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:15 pm to
Gary Patterson is a defensive guy. If you want his offense, hire Doug Meachem his OC.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
2764 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:15 pm to
With this defense we don't need a prolific offense. We need an average offense. Don't give up the jewel of your team in hopes of capturing a different colored one.
Posted by ShowMeState
Member since Mar 2013
26 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:16 pm to
I am liking Matt Campbell more with each passing day. He's done very well at Toledo and recruited very well too.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:19 pm to
Yeah, I can see Lock being a boss running the triple option!
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:43 pm to
Question was asked earlier, and I did not see answered anywhere: IF the HC is Odom, does Kul become DC, or is he a casualty? I think it would be a huge mistake to let him get away. He's the brand of our defense right now, even though Odom is the DC. It's Kul that puts guys in the league.

The only guy on offense I'd really want to keep for sure is Hill. But retaining Kul should be a priority.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3072 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

The only guy I'd really want to keep for sure is...


In this order please: Kul, Ivey and maybe Hill.

Ivey is GP's ace-in-the-hole. He would be HARD to replace. Same with Kul.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 12:57 pm to
Forgot about Ivey. Yes, definitely keep him. But he's not just with the football program, right? He's got a position in the AD as strength and conditioning, and I think he works with more than just the football team. He should perhaps be an AD himself one day. Gotta keep Ivey.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19233 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:25 pm to


Does anyone know if Odom and Kul have a good relationship to where he'd want to stay?

Kul was obviously disappointed GP passed him over for Odom, but have then been any lingering hard feelings?
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/20/15 at 7:54 pm to
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