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Posted on 4/20/23 at 12:58 pm to MIzzouMark
Shoot even in 2020 we started the wrong QB but he actually changed horses in game 2
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:33 pm to Tackle74
I knew he wasn't the guy when he brought a lightsaber to a press conference.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:54 pm to JBlutarsky
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I'm guessing if we don't throw 4 fricking interceptions in a row we might beat k State.
Some of you are way out of your head on Drinkwitz. Do you think the AD will find a much better replacement and not let Drinkwitz finish what he is about to turn this season and next year for sure to a pretty good team. The portal will still be there for next year. The OC is the key to get the offense going in the right direction. Normally will take a year or two to get the offense set and ready. I really do believe this season will be much better. Isn't that what everyone want? There was no OC last year and Drinkwitz made a priority to get one and some of you aren't happy with the HC is mind blowing. Odom on the other hand wasn't going to make the team better and it was going downhill. Drinkwitz's situation isn't the same and is actually getting better because of OC was a pretty good hire. He did help get a 4* quarterback from the portal. That is why got to give Drinkwitz more time. Why fire him when he is making better decision on the coaching staff. Plus, the extra coach will help with recruiting. Yes I know there was a step back. That doesn't mean it is a failure. There is still a lot of time to do well this fall and that shall get players from the portal and recruits from HS. Odom had nothing left to make improvement on the team. OC was a revolving door. He couldn't get his act together. Odom was close to being a failure at Arkansas when his defense went bad last year. Some of you told Arkansas fans that Odom will be a liability on the defense. Have you seen Drinkwitz failed to make any improvements? He did solve the DC problem. Now he is about to solve the OC and offense problem. I see progress. That is why we stick with him as long I see Drinkwitz making changes that is looking good. This year we will see how the whole thing pans out at the end of this season.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:17 pm to TrueLefty
If some of you are upset that players are going to the portal, then you must be clueless of how things are happening during practice. It is way too early to be discourage about the way Drinkwitz is handling the team so far.
Remember this. The experts were saying Drinkwitz would get his team to go 4-8. Instead, he got the team to go 6-6. Drinkwitz did better than what the experts projected on his team each year so far. So some are saying 5-7 to 6-6 then you better expect the team will go 7-5 to 8-4 this coming season.
Remember this. The experts were saying Drinkwitz would get his team to go 4-8. Instead, he got the team to go 6-6. Drinkwitz did better than what the experts projected on his team each year so far. So some are saying 5-7 to 6-6 then you better expect the team will go 7-5 to 8-4 this coming season.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:52 pm to Tackle74
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Pinkel succeeded because he made correct choices at quarterback recruiting and playing time.
Add to that the fact that he developed players well and his teams thrived on not making easy to correct mistakes. Current climate of portal and NIL makes player development a different world totally. Drinks teams repeatidly shoot themselves in the foot.
What?! How come Odom lose to Wyoming? Then the last 2 years we was projected to get his team to go 10=2 and went 8-4. Then the following year he was projected to go 8-4 and went 6-6. Odom lost to Vandy. Drinkwitz on the other hand did better than expected. This year should be projected to go 6-6 some say 5-7. I wouldn't surprise me if he gets the team to go 8-4. Have you not seen the defense played a lot better than last year? Then the OC was in need to get a better result on the offense. Hired a pretty good one. I know many of you think it is easy to hire a top-notch HC and start winning many games. Drinkwitz can still be that coach if given time. Now it is time to get it done and win more than 6 games in a season. I believe he will get it done this coming season. It took Drinkwitz a little more time, but it is now coming around. What is it that you are not seeing this time around that warrant an improvement on the team in general? The OC will be in his first year with this team and that might not hit it out of the park due to getting the offense ready at 100 percent. It should be better than what Drinkwitz had going on the offense without an OC.
Who will be the starter at quarterback this season? That is good that Drinkwitz got more quarterback to get this straighten out. What do you know about what is really going on with the quarterback situation from last year. This year it is going to make a huge difference. The point is Odom left what one starter and he didn't make a change when needed to get the offense going. Plus, he had not had many to choose from because he wasn't a very good recruiter. Even Arkansas fans were saying that Odom wasn't a very good recruiter.
This post was edited on 4/20/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:09 pm to TrueLefty
Did some of you see the Spring game? It must've been very good. It was way too early, and the team was nowhere it should be due to learning new offense and quarterbacks needed more time to gel and learn the offense. By Fall will it be the same or will there be only a little improvement? I sure hope not. I have faith that things will turn around by Fall time.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:28 pm to Mizz-SEC
What has helped Mizzou have any success and be .500 in the regular season is Odom being a decent defensive recruiter. He was a terrible offensive recruiter and left Drink with no offensive players besides Badie. Drink was left with 2 FCS QB’s starting in the best FBS conference.
Odom tore down what Pinkel built. It is going to take a few years to build back to a consistent 8-4 team. Once we are consistent at being 8-4 or 7-5 we will occasionally have 10-2 teams or better. 10-2 will probably get us in the playoffs.
Drink’s best hire might be OL coach Brandon Jones. Jones has been a successful OL coach. He will definitely be an upgrade and could make the OL better in his first season like he did when he was at Texas Tech.
Odom tore down what Pinkel built. It is going to take a few years to build back to a consistent 8-4 team. Once we are consistent at being 8-4 or 7-5 we will occasionally have 10-2 teams or better. 10-2 will probably get us in the playoffs.
Drink’s best hire might be OL coach Brandon Jones. Jones has been a successful OL coach. He will definitely be an upgrade and could make the OL better in his first season like he did when he was at Texas Tech.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:50 pm to notsince98
Why are you doing this? You act like he is done. I am guessing he is moving in the right direction with the hiring of new OC and OL coach. What is it you do not have faith with what Drinkwitz is doing? He is still learning and now doing a little better on hiring coaches. That is why this year will be interesting to see how the offense do to make the team do better and help rest the defense more. Plus to keep making adjustments from last year. He is doing that. The win-loss record not so much. He is making the right kind of adjustment with the coaching staff. Then getting better players and depth at key position that was bad for a long time even during the Odom years. He is doing the right way as of right now. Getting the full coaching staff in place was a must and not just any coaching staff. Key one to make improvements overall. This year should be fun to watch since the hiring of an OC and OL coach. Two major needs to set for offense improvements.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:53 am to TrueLefty
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Why are you doing this? You act like he is done.
Doing what? Stating the obvious? He is done unless this year is an aberration. He has been very consistent since his arrival at Mizzou.
I can't find many, if any, examples of P5 coaches that have such a mediocre first 3 years (with no improvement compared to previous coach) and survive, let alone succeed. If you are not expecting this to be Drink's last season then you are expecting something that happens less than 1% of the time. Quite an odd "expectation" to have.
EDIT: And no, I'm not biased against Drink. I was a huge fan of the hire and said so many times on here. But I wont let that prevent me from stating the obvious.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:20 am to TrueLefty
We don't need you to type up another essay. We have enough data, we know who he is.
Eli Drinkwitz is a slightly worse version of Neal Brown meets Bryan Harsin.
Eli Drinkwitz is a slightly worse version of Neal Brown meets Bryan Harsin.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:20 pm to blueprint_one
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We don't need you to type up another essay. We have enough data, we know who he is.
Eli Drinkwitz is a slightly worse version of Neal Brown meets Bryan Harsin.
If you really believe this then why wasn't he given the pink slip when you thought he had to go? Some of you aren't careful about what you wish for. Is this why you wanted Drinkwitz gone? because he didn't turn this team around quickly to your liking? If you think the COVID-19 and the lack of Spring game back then really didn't mess up things for Drinkwitz then you are wrong. That one year shouldn't count. That is why he should be given another year. How could he evaluate players during that COVID-19 season? Limited workouts, training and normal routines hurt his start even though he did okay but trying to evaluate the players against other SEC teams during the COVID-19 didn't help him. That is why there was a drop off. Most teams were not up to their standard playing level during the COVID-19.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 4/21/23 at 1:38 pm to TrueLefty
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If you think the COVID-19 and the lack of Spring game back then really didn't mess up things for Drinkwitz then you are wrong. That one year shouldn't count.
You realize that was Drink's best year, right? You really aren't going to build your case by doing that.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:06 pm to notsince98
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If you think the COVID-19 and the lack of Spring game back then really didn't mess up things for Drinkwitz then you are wrong. That one year shouldn't count.
You realize that was Drink's best year, right? You really aren't going to build your case by doing that.
Yep! Why was that? I said he miss evaluated the situation with other teams due to lack of normal season and the players were not in their normal football shape. That is why players were given another year. I think it should be the same for coaches. How can you say all the SEC were at the top of their game during COVID-19? Many players weren't in top shape, and it threw everything off for that season. It wasn't a normal season. Take that year away and he would be starting with only 2 full years with Spring game being played along with Spring and Fall practice schedules. Then there were normal regular games not being played. Most coaches couldn't really evaluate players because of lack of a normal season. Players were not in their normal football shape during COVID-19 season. This year I am seeing other SEC teams are getting better in general. Drinkwitz is doing that too with addition to some key players and coaching staff. But it is not really going to be like Drinkwitz will be far better than the others. It is more likely a push. Do you realize that this is Drinkwitz best coaching staff he had so far with the new addition of an OC and a new OL coach? This is one of the better coaching staff so far. So how can you say Drinkwitz will be gone next year? He isn't going anywhere.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 4/21/23 at 4:57 pm to TrueLefty
Kentucky, Arkansas made some changes on their coaching staff that were probably an upgrade from last year. that gives you an idea that Drinkwitz isn't the only one made upgrade to coaching staff and some key players from portal. I do think there is a need for some more key players to be added to the team to be a complete team. It is hard for Drinkwitz to beat out top schools. The offense should be better but how much better and will it be enough to get more wins? Might need another year to get to 8 or more wins a season. No way you want to keep up with firing HCs that are not yet have a full 4 years and not given a chance to make it work with key changes.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 4/21/23 at 5:51 pm to TrueLefty
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Yep! Why was that?
The same reason of his success at Appalachian State. None of the players were his.
People talk shite about Barry's recruits but his players are still getting drafted to this very draft.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:10 pm to blueprint_one
Drink is a piss poor coach, and an even worse play caller.
These, like there only being 2 sexes, are #facts
These, like there only being 2 sexes, are #facts
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:35 pm to blueprint_one
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The same reason of his success at Appalachian State. None of the players were his.
Did COVID-19 hit then? Nope! The point I am saying is COVID-19 effected his evaluation of other teams in the SEC due to lack of a normal football season and workout. That is why this coming season should be good but shouldn't be surprised if the team goes 6-6 again but I should see an overall improvement like close games losses. I have no idea how much better this team will be this coming season. I know it will be better than last year but how much better compering to other teams in the SEC. Most SEC will be much improved from last year. I believe the following year with a year under new OC and new OL coach to help with recruiting, a much improve play calling on the offense, and the offense starts scoring more points. Plus, less 3 and out outcome. I hope many of you open your wallets to get the players to come play for Missouri. That is why it has been a struggled for so long. Firing and keep replacing HCs every 4 years isn't the answer. If the HC is making slow progress, then the AD should keep supporting until it is obvious the HC is losing the team and players are not getting it done on the field and the coaches are failing big time. That is why the hiring of OC and new OL coach. What did Drinkwitz do wrong? Was the OC and new OL coach not good enough? I am confused here what the reason you are not happy with Drinkwitz? He is handing the offense to the new OC and got a better OL coach. Odom lost the team and was time to move on if he was given another year it would've been a much worst situation and a lot harder to attract a good HC to come to Missouri. I am telling you this is the best I have seen so far from making the right hires on the coaching staff. Why you do not want to give him that chance? You mean you still don't have faith in Drinkwitz to win more than 6 games this year and next year when the whole staff gets the experience against the SEC teams. I look at Kentucky model and how Stoops have done and was given plenty of time to build the program to be respected in football. Stoops had a bad year last year. Why? OC was bad and he was able to get the old one back that got the offense going and was able to get a top quarterback transfer. I am shocked and sadden to see some of you want result right away. It all starts with having money for NIL and be a football powerhouse program. Stoops is well known from his brother success at OU. There is the connection that help him to righten the ship at Kentucky. Drinkwitz doesn't have any connection and is going to have to go the similar route to build a good football program with the right coaching staff. It is now looking like he got the final pieces of the puzzle to get the team to be good. This is what it is. Odom was going backwards. He lost the team. Drinkwitz didn't lose the team and this year should be his best yet.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:12 pm to TrueLefty
I forgot to add that Drinkwitz was really the only offensive minded coach on the team and that really hurt him. With the new OC and new OL coach that should open up the communication with ideas and feedback. another offensive minded coach is better than one. I am telling you how many HCs are running the offense by themselves? Drinkwitz realized this now. He needed help to get feedback and ideas. He will not be calling the plays either too but with the new OL coach that can help with some ideas from what he learned from his previous coach that had huge success on the offense. The same could be said about the OC. Give Drinkwitz and the rest of the team a chance to prove you wrong.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:47 pm to notsince98
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Odom deserved firing
Odom would’ve had another year if he hadn’t asked to be fired.
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