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Cornell Mann installing the offense

Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:09 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:09 pm
New Mizzou assistant Cornell Mann will install NBA style offense influenced by his time coaching with Hoiberg at Iowa State.

Looks like he will be mainly responsible for covering up Zo's main weakness.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:28 pm to
Offense isn't as a big a weakness as many say.

At MSU Cuonzo had a top 30 offense
Had a top 20 offense at Tennessee
And a top 40 offense at California

According to KenPom efficiencies.

His teams just haven't played with the pace that many believe to be good offenses.
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10144 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:29 pm to
Also, unlike football, I think it is less about X and O's in basketball. If you have guys that can make shots and get to the bucket, you're going to be decent on that side of the floor.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

Looks like he will be mainly responsible for covering up Zo's main weakness.
vertical pinstripes would make his butt seem shapelier
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:37 pm to
Per some stats website, in ppg he has finished:

2016-2017 - 280th
2015-2016 - 117th
2014-2015 - 184th
2013-2014 - 131st
2012-2013 - 183rd
2011-2012 - 149th
2010-2011 - 127th
2009-2010 - 101st
2008-2009 - 300th

Between our two numbers, it tells me his teams have been very efficient at not scoring many points. I'll take the help from Mann and applaud Martin if he was able to critique himself and is looking to supplement his weakness.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:39 pm to
Obviously, he's a defensive minded guy. Which sort of sucks in today's game. These guys aren't taught much defense coming up.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15960 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 5:43 pm to
Problem with half court offense. If your shooting % isnt high, you're screwed.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 5:49 pm
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1518 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

I'll take the help from Mann and applaud Martin if he was able to critique himself and is looking to supplement his weakness.


This
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:24 pm to
PPG ignores pace of play. Playing fast hasn't been a staple of Cuonzo teams. It's part of why I had a couple other coaches ahead of him.
He has had teams that play efficiently at every stop.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:28 pm to
I think maybe this points to a faster pace? I'm not totally sure what this means to be honest.

I know Martin liked to play a slower pace game. They weren't bad at offense per se, but they didn't have as many possessions?

We should have some guys capable of putting the ball in the basket so it should be interesting.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:36 pm to
We actually have a few players now that would excell in a high tempo game.

Barnett showed his open court abilities last season. Add Roberts, Harris and MPJ to that.
Phillips can be good in that type of game with finishers around him.

If Knox comes I would like to see a small ball lineup with Barnett, Knox and MPJ as the front court.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

PPG ignores pace of play. Playing fast hasn't been a staple of Cuonzo teams. It's part of why I had a couple other coaches ahead of him.
He has had teams that play efficiently at every stop.


And thus I think we said the same thing. He is very efficient at not scoring very many points. Personally, I think he realizes that he's got the horses that are best suited for a faster pace and higher scoring game. You would be taking away advantages we gain from the likes of Porter and Harris and Roberts and even Phillips.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 8:47 pm to
I think every single player on the team that will see court time would benefit. Especially a guy like your man Smith. I think he benefits from a faster pace that allows him to use his athleticism instead of him playing a half court game and trying to body up bigger guys on either end of the court.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 9:05 pm to
I don't know that I would call Smith my man. I do think that he has the highest potential of any of the KA recruits. He could become a really good stretch 5.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 4/11/17 at 8:26 am to
Pretty good rundown of the new offense

LINK
Posted by SemperFi
St Louis
Member since Nov 2015
1518 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

“Those guys’ job is to specifically focus on (offensive) things, because when I get focused on the defensive side those things slip,” Martin said. “


Refreshing to see a coach that knows his own short comings, and takes the steps to correct it.

So it’s Mann and Hollender on offense and Martin and Michael Porter Sr. on defense.
Posted by Ridgewalker
Member since Aug 2012
3556 posts
Posted on 4/12/17 at 3:00 pm to
And the message to any and all recruits: Want to learn the NBA game, come to Mizzou.

That is a strong message in the living room.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:21 am to
quote:

I don't know that I would call Smith my man. I do think that he has the highest potential of any of the KA recruits. He could become a really good stretch 5.

"Could be" but he needs to take a few road trips thru the Mickey Ds drive thru first
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 8:23 am to
Pace would be dictated by the point. From what I've seen of Harris, he is a hi tempo guy. Harris pushes and has the raw talent to push the ball to the basket. He reminds me of Flip a lot. He makes the bone headed decisions at times, but it's a trade off until and if you can get him to make better decisions as he gets experience. Not to mention as we all know he is an above average passer.

I'm not a hi IQ basketball person, I have played a little. But I think the success of a team boils down to two things in the end. Continuity between the players, how well they gel together and talent level. Ok three things, the last is a coach that can get the under achievers to step up and produce. But, having talented players like what CM has recruited can do the same thing.
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