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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:38 am
JWIII is transfering. Probably a few more. One might be Isabelle who HCKA recruited.
Now HCKA will have the players he recruited playing a system that he was able to sell them on. Let's see if these players produce in this system.
Hopefully the players that are left from the Frank Haith era and HCKA's recruits will put 110% into the system and see what it can do.
Thanks JWIII for your 2 years here at Missouri. It was a rough 2 year period that Missouri has not seen before.
Now HCKA will have the players he recruited playing a system that he was able to sell them on. Let's see if these players produce in this system.
Hopefully the players that are left from the Frank Haith era and HCKA's recruits will put 110% into the system and see what it can do.
Thanks JWIII for your 2 years here at Missouri. It was a rough 2 year period that Missouri has not seen before.
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Posted on 3/31/15 at 10:59 am to outlawjoseywales
CKA has a system?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:05 am to outlawjoseywales
Take two puffs and pass it to me. I'll have what you are smoking.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:11 am to everytrueson
The problem with KA is he is not going to get the time to do a full rebuild. A lot of that is his own doing. Year 1 was way worse than it should of been, and year 2 might eclipse that.
It was always a tear down job in his eyes, but two years is not near enough time to get that done.
It was always a tear down job in his eyes, but two years is not near enough time to get that done.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:12 am to JesusQuintana
I agree completely. He had one year of tear down. JW3 and anyone else that might leave just completely killed his chance at coaching past next year.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:21 am to everytrueson
Kids today aren't interested in a "system" that makes the team better but a "system" that makes them NBA ready.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:25 am to Wtodd
Isn't that the point of college though? To provide one with the tools for a career.
ETA: assuming a players wishes (or thinks he can make it there) to go to the NBA.
ETA: assuming a players wishes (or thinks he can make it there) to go to the NBA.
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 11:27 am
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:25 am to everytrueson
It is hard to win a beer league in softball at your local park. It is hard to win ANY type of championship.
HCKA won a Division II championship. He can win just give him time.
HCKA won a Division II championship. He can win just give him time.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:28 am to outlawjoseywales
KA had no system. Maybe it was the players. Maybe it was not coaching it until after the season was nearly over. Maybe he just have one at all. Maybe it's a combination of all of the above.
It was hard for me to win the city/county championship too. But just because I did, it doesn't mean I should be a D1 coach.
KA will get his time, though the amount of time is looking like it is getting shortened all the time.
It was hard for me to win the city/county championship too. But just because I did, it doesn't mean I should be a D1 coach.
KA will get his time, though the amount of time is looking like it is getting shortened all the time.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:29 am to outlawjoseywales
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Kids today aren't interested in a "system" that makes the team better but a "system" that makes them NBA ready
When was the last time Butler or Wichita State had someone drafted? Iowa State ?? Is Gonzaga producing NBA players left and right?? I have no idea but I do know they win a lot of games in the regular season and have some Sweet 16 apperances.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:38 am to everytrueson
Everyone (me included) on this board wanted to run HCGP out of Missouri after our first year in the SEC. He adapted, made changes (sent his son Yost packing), and the team got healthy.
HCKA will do the same. He knows his days are numbered, just like Pinkel did, and he will do what he has to do to win.
Killz is right and I am on the Killz bandwagon on this one. This one only LOL
HCKA will do the same. He knows his days are numbered, just like Pinkel did, and he will do what he has to do to win.
Killz is right and I am on the Killz bandwagon on this one. This one only LOL
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:41 am to outlawjoseywales
Hope you're right, though I don't think there's any comparison between GP and KA. Does that mean we're done suspending kids for using their dinner fork when they eat their salad?
Posted on 3/31/15 at 11:46 am to outlawjoseywales
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When was the last time Butler or Wichita State had someone drafted? Iowa State ?? Is Gonzaga producing NBA players left and right?? I have no idea but I do know they win a lot of games in the regular season and have some Sweet 16 apperances
I agree & you validated my point. Teams that win, especially late in the year, have a "system"; the exception is KY which just has the best BB talent and they maul you to death.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 12:21 pm to outlawjoseywales
Though I agree with your overall statement, it is rather incorrect. They may not be NBA factories, but they recently put out NBA talent. Especially Gonzaga.
Wichita State: Cleanthony Early (2015), Gal Mekel (2014), Toure' Murry (2014)
Butler: Gordon Hayward (2011), Shelvin Mack (2012)
Gonzaga: Austin Daye (2010), Elias Harris (2014), Kelly Olynyk (2014), Jeremy Pargo (2012), Robert Sacre (2013), Ronny Turiaf (2006), Adam Morrison (2007)
Wichita State: Cleanthony Early (2015), Gal Mekel (2014), Toure' Murry (2014)
Butler: Gordon Hayward (2011), Shelvin Mack (2012)
Gonzaga: Austin Daye (2010), Elias Harris (2014), Kelly Olynyk (2014), Jeremy Pargo (2012), Robert Sacre (2013), Ronny Turiaf (2006), Adam Morrison (2007)
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:07 pm to Wtodd
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Kids today aren't interested in a "system" that makes the team better but a "system" that makes them NBA ready.
Every coach has this obstacle. The good ones overcome it.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:24 pm to casublett1
But they did not before the started winning. Just like every other school did not until they started winning.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:25 pm to the808bass
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Every coach has this obstacle. The good ones overcome it.
Agree but it takes time; more than 1 year anyway. There aren't any John Woodens or Coach Ks or Bobby Knights out there. Yes there are some good coaches out there but they didn't win right away. Even those guys didn't win conferences or natties right out of the gate.
Most of us on here believe that if we're NOT .500 or better next year, KA will be unemployed.
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:33 pm to reedus23
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Hope you're right, though I don't think there's any comparison between GP and KA
If FSU can send Bobby Bowden packing then Pinkel is always on thin ice. Just like every other coach out there. Sabin in my opinion is the only "God" out there in any sport. And if he does have some 8-4 or 7-5 records back to back they may send him packing
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:44 pm to outlawjoseywales
I like Kim and want to give him the full 4 years to get a system implemented. However, I was hoping to see a him coach better in terms of the X's and O's. That's something I will really be keeping an eye on for next year. Is it too much to simply ask for some ball movement?
This post was edited on 3/31/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 3/31/15 at 1:52 pm to casublett1
They had ball movement this year. Unfortunately, the offense they ran was the same offense my son's team runs when they're trying to stall. MU would run the old 4 corners for 30 seconds and then dribble it off of our own leg.
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