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Better coach: Kim Anderson or Frank Haith?
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:00 pm
I see no difference.
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Posted on 1/17/15 at 7:08 pm to the808bass
Neither. Anyone that will coach here is guaranteed to suck.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:51 pm to the808bass
It's kind of hard to say someone with a sub .500 record is better than another coach. I really am trying to be patient and not just melt over where this program is. Pretty much just trying to write off this year.
But what were we told when KA was hired? We might not win as many games but the games will be more enjoyable to watch because of his style of play. Well, not so true. We were told that we would see vast improvement as the year went on. Well, not so much outside of a game or 2. We were told that the teams would be more fundamentally sound. Still not seeing that. We were told that regardless of anything else, a KA team would play defense. Still waiting for that as well.
Still doing my best to be patient but it ain't easy.
But what were we told when KA was hired? We might not win as many games but the games will be more enjoyable to watch because of his style of play. Well, not so true. We were told that we would see vast improvement as the year went on. Well, not so much outside of a game or 2. We were told that the teams would be more fundamentally sound. Still not seeing that. We were told that regardless of anything else, a KA team would play defense. Still waiting for that as well.
Still doing my best to be patient but it ain't easy.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:34 pm to reedus23
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KA team would play defense
I do think they're doing this. They got owned at the end. But I thought the Defense was ok overall.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:40 pm to the808bass
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But I thought the Defense was ok overall.
In today's game. But just like every other aspect of their game, it can be there one day and gone the next.
This post was edited on 1/17/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 10:44 am to reedus23
I really like Kim and want him to turn it around but I just don't think he is the guy to do it. I hate to say it but at least so far Haith is a better coach.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:02 am to ZackAttackTiger
While I am frustrated as hell, still too early to call. He has only been the head coach at Mizzou for 17 games, so a bit more perspective is in order for a man that bleeds black and gold. Recruitment needs to pick up though to have any chance at success.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:23 am to the808bass
I think KA by a very small margin. That's only because he actually looks like he's coaching the players during the game where I think Haith had his assistants do most of the in game coaching for him.
But other than that, they both suck at this point.
But other than that, they both suck at this point.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:30 am to jafo
No clue as to what you are talking about
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:32 am to seaniec04
I'm sorry, but you are a moron if you think Haith is a better coach than Anderson. The Haith hire is what has set the entire program back.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:34 am to TigerBornTigerBred
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Neither. Anyone that will coach here is guaranteed to suck.
If you believe that then why stick around?
Nothing to see here. Follow another team.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:40 am to seaniec04
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No clue as to what you are talking about
They both suck.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 11:50 am to seaniec04
I don't see how you can argue Haith is worse than KA at this point. At least Haith's teams defended the home court, the team this year is pathetically bad, not even in the top half of all college basketball teams. How anyone can defend that idk.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:17 pm to seaniec04
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I'm sorry, but you are a moron if you think Haith is a better coach than Anderson. The Haith hire is what has set the entire program back.
If we haven't made the tournament in year 4 of KA's tenure, would it be safe to say that you're wrong?
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:39 pm to seaniec04
I hope your right but right now KA has not shown anything better than Haith. Time will tell.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:07 pm to the808bass
There is no reason this team should be this bad. That loss early in the year to UMKC was preparation related and thats on the coaching staff.
I wasnt sold when he was hired and Im sure as hell not any better half way through the season.
I wasnt sold when he was hired and Im sure as hell not any better half way through the season.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 1:12 pm to ZackAttackTiger
Haith isn't a coach. He inherited talent and did worse and worse as that talent that he inherited disappeared. A combination of his arrogance (demanding a raise after an underachieving year) and a recognition of his smoke and mirrors (leaving after succeeding before he has a chance to fail) led to his departure.
KA in one sense was much needed. My impression is that the atmosphere around the basketball program was toxic. Forget whether it's legal or not, smoking weed is against team rules and were being broken. Team mates were fighting team mates. KA's approach was needed to cleanse the program.
As for a basketball coach and all that entails, time will tell. Youth is no excuse in my book. Others are younger than Mizzou or nearly so. For comparison of youth, if this site is accurate, Vandy is the 4th youngest team in the country. Mizzou is the 36th youngest. One is 11-5, the other is 7-9 (6-9 if you exclude Chaminade). That's not to say I expected a tourney team, but a team this bad...no, never expected that in my wildest dreams.
Can KA get things going in the right direction? I can only hope. As of right now though, the grade would not be very good.
KA in one sense was much needed. My impression is that the atmosphere around the basketball program was toxic. Forget whether it's legal or not, smoking weed is against team rules and were being broken. Team mates were fighting team mates. KA's approach was needed to cleanse the program.
As for a basketball coach and all that entails, time will tell. Youth is no excuse in my book. Others are younger than Mizzou or nearly so. For comparison of youth, if this site is accurate, Vandy is the 4th youngest team in the country. Mizzou is the 36th youngest. One is 11-5, the other is 7-9 (6-9 if you exclude Chaminade). That's not to say I expected a tourney team, but a team this bad...no, never expected that in my wildest dreams.
Can KA get things going in the right direction? I can only hope. As of right now though, the grade would not be very good.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:41 pm to reedus23
I'm not sure KA has fixed all the toxic issues either. There have been several incidents since he has taken over. Most were Haith's players but he is in charge now and shoulders the responsibilty.
This team is a lot worse than I thought they would be.
This team is a lot worse than I thought they would be.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 6:04 pm to the808bass
Absolutely....Look at Majerus teams @ SLU. He went 16-15 in year one. With upperclassmen his teams were better and then when his team was young again they went 12-19. When that group got older they turned into a top 15 type of team. That's my point. College basketball (unless you are Kentucky) is all about having an experienced team. Would you argue that Majerus was a bad coach? I don't think many would.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 7:25 pm to seaniec04
Majerus was at SLU. Kim isn't at SLU. He's not working with unranked, unrecruited kids. And while Majerus was an amazing coach, he wasn't a great recruiter. And the best he ever did at SLU was what? A sweet 16.
If that's what our goals are for the program, a random tourney invite and a Sweet 16 once a decade, I can stop following the team now and salvage some sanity.
If that's what our goals are for the program, a random tourney invite and a Sweet 16 once a decade, I can stop following the team now and salvage some sanity.
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