Started By
Message

re: 2015 Squad

Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:48 pm to
I know it won't happen, but for whatever reason, I'd feel completely different about the depth of WR if Zanders would switch. Just want to see him with the ball in his hands bad.
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:32 pm to
There's a lot of TBD with the roster yet, but I'm on record elsewhere as thinking next year's team will be better than this one's. To me that really hinges on one position-WR.

At DE we lose both starters, but that's a position this staff has ALWAYS come up with production from-from Brian Smith to Stryker Sulak to A.& J. Smith and Sam and Ealy and Ray and Golden, year after year we have someone who does a good to awesome job at that spot.

At DT we're good for this season, it's going forward that there is concern, imho. We should get high quality play from the starters, and the prime backups have some talent but have been lost in the shuffle of the deep rotation we had there this year. I also think Crawford is a candidate to be switched back here-he got moved to the oline late in fall camp, and that says to me he's a good athlete they were trying to get on the field. He may move back to DT now that the log jam has eased at the position with the graduation of Hoch and Vincent.

The back end of the defense should be pretty stout. Brothers, Sherer, Newsome, Green, and Beisel will have another year's experience and strength and conditioning, and Lee comes off his redshirt.

The DB depth looks ridiculous, on paper. The main hole to fill here is Webb, but many of us have been waiting to see Ross get on the field. Depending on what happens at WR between now and fall camp, some of these kids might switch sides of the ball.

If we can figure it out at WR next year, the offense should be better. We'll have more size and strength at RB, depending on Steward's health and Strong's grades. Before his injury Steward looked to be the guy at RB, with Hansbrough serving as a backup/change of pace and Murphy being more of a utility guy who operated out of the slot a lot more than he ended up doing this year. Reese reminds me of Egnew, who didn't do much but look really good on the field, until he broke through finally. He and Culkin should both be better this year.

Hopefully the oline kids who redshirted can step into the rotation, if not earn starting spots, especially the big three of Bauer, Rhodes, and Fairchild. We need better oline play next year.

And of course, most of all Maty has to improve several things between now and when the season starts next year. Unfortunately he'll also be at the mercy of how the WR question gets answered in the end. Maty could be inconsistent throwing the ball at times, but his WRs didn't help him much at times either by dropping a lot of very catchable balls. Still, I look for him to take a step forward next year-all GP's sophomore QBs do as juniors, except for Franklin whose junior year was ruined by injuries. MM's struggles this year parallel CD's in his soph season, and many of the criticisms about size and throwing mechanics and decision making (too ready to scramble at times, didn't 'see' the field or read defenses well enough, etc) that have been aimed at MM were being said on these message boards about CD back then.

The thing is, we could be better and not do as well next year. A lot depends on what happens elsewhere in the division. UF and Tenn aren't going to be down forever, and sooner or later UGA will quit shooting themselves in the foot for one year somewhere along the line. I fully expect we'll be in the hunt for the east next year. If some kids step up, we could be a threat to win it all. Or maybe I'm just drunk off my own post.


Posted by MizzouJim
Member since Nov 2013
419 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Christ I wish we had your depth across the board. Looks like Mizzou should compete for the East again next year.


That would be nice, but...

The tough thing entering this year is we only returned 9 starters total, 2nd fewest in all of FBS, so from my perspective, winning the East again was pure gravy.

Next year, yes, we have lots of returning depth, but we'll have key losses. In 2013 we knew that Ray and Golden were #2's that would dynamite, and they have been this year. With Ray leaving early, we have to reload again, and I think we'll definitely see a dropoff.

At Wide Receiver we lose all three starters again, just like last year. We're going through a period where we'll struggle to have good depth unless we get surprised by a couple of very young players or a couple of jucos are recruited.

Losing Murphy will be more of a loss on special teams than running back, IMO.

I personally see next year as Georgia's year to win the division. UT will be better and Florida will be better. Hell, Kentucky should be better too, and I can't see the Old Ball Coach not put a good team on the field. We could have some tough losses next year that we won this year. So ironically, the odds might be more against us next year returning many more players. I felt all along we could win the East this year because we had good 2nd string moving into starting roles.

Next year the East is gonna be a dogfight.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19236 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 4:54 am to
quote:

And of course, most of all Maty has to improve several things between now and when the season starts next year. Unfortunately he'll also be at the mercy of how the WR question gets answered in the end. Maty could be inconsistent throwing the ball at times, but his WRs didn't help him much at times either by dropping a lot of very catchable balls. Still, I look for him to take a step forward next year-all GP's sophomore QBs do as juniors, except for Franklin whose junior year was ruined by injuries. MM's struggles this year parallel CD's in his soph season, and many of the criticisms about size and throwing mechanics and decision making (too ready to scramble at times, didn't 'see' the field or read defenses well enough, etc) that have been aimed at MM were being said on these message boards about CD back then.


Several noted analysts commented on Mauk's lack of mechanics.

Any chance the coaching staff (or Mauk himself) seek a QB guru to work with him to clean him up?

Poor footwork / mechanics would explain his short to intermediate inaccuracy problems.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 8:37 am to
quote:

At Wide Receiver we lose all three starters again, just like last year. We're going through a period where we'll struggle to have good depth unless we get surprised by a couple of very young players or a couple of jucos are recruited.


The thing that makes the WR position so problematic in my eyes is not just the fact that we lose 3 starters yet again, but it seems in years past the staff had done a better job of getting the back up WR's involved so that they were ready to slide into the starter roles. Lucas. Washington. Even DGB. All got worked into the rotation before they were asked to be the man. The WR's we have as starters next year will have had next to no playing time this year. I still think Brown should have redshirted, though maybe the actual practice time will help him next year as he was able to practice with the main team this year.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17973 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:37 am to
WR isn't a big deal. That position depends greatly on chemistry and reps. The starters next year will get every snap with Mauk from almost now until next fall. They are all capable and the reps will do them good.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:43 am to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17973 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:15 am to
Gabe aint too bright. How does he not mention the UP at DT next year.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:20 am to
quote:

Gabe aint too bright. How does he not mention the UP at DT next year.


Not picking a fight not, but what is the UP at DT? Brantley is a stud. Augusta is a stud. Both will have another years experience. That's a big UP. But we also lose some depth with the loss of Hoch and Vincent. My brain's not working this early yet. Who fills in as the back ups to Brantley and Augusta?
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:22 am to
Winston and Logan. Answered my own question. Arguably, lack of depth, though the 2 starters could be and should be better.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17973 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:29 am to
Logan is like 340 lbs. He will be very useful next year.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Gabe aint too bright.


no doubt, he's a true idiot, I don't know why exactly but I'm sure he is!

I'm not here to defend Gabe but if you want to take pot shots at him you need to do a lot better, if that is, you don't want to look "not too bright" either.. he also didn't talk about punter and long snapper depth, clearly he's just glossing over the positions.

I'd bet Gabe knows the roster and depth chart as well as anyone here.

Before the last season we had a ton of DT depth, then Osborn left or was asked to leave, never really heard why and Williams moved from D-line to O-line. With Vincent and Hoch both set to start and Augusta and Brantley as clear contenders, it wasn't much of an issue. Probably still isn't much of an issue with them gone. Hatley, like Brantley, is a hybrid DE-DT size player at around 285 so along with Winston and Logan we have a little depth at DT.

What we do need is to bring in the difference makers like Beckner, that we know are going to impact the starting depth pretty soon. I hadn't heard about Logan being 340 pounds, if thats the case I'm gonna assume Ivey has put some good weight on him in 2 years and he's gonna be a real beast out there in a limited role.

I certainly like our D line interior but when you lose two veteran starters and arent as deep as all that, well let's just hope Brantley and Big Josh stay real healthy all year long.




This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17973 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

no doubt, he's a true idiot, I don't know why exactly but I'm sure he is!


That he is. I can't believe people still pay him for his information. He hasn't wrote anything insightful for years, if not a decade. The guy has no understanding for the intricacies of the game. He didn't realize that Golden/Ray would be a better starting duo than Sam/Ealy. The only thing he does is chase high school kids around.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15968 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

The only thing he does is chase high school kids around.



Are they at least seniors? that wouldnt look good in court.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

So ironically, the odds might be more against us next year returning many more players.


agree, probably longer odds of repeating next year, and with more returning starters... #ironic


quote:

notsince98
That he is.


and yet I'd still rather read/hear Gabes opinion about the Tigers than your opinions on them, more irony.


This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Logan is like 340 lbs. He will be very useful next year.


Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

quote:
Logan is like 340 lbs. He will be very useful next year.



yea this is the first I've heard about him getting that big, is it a fact or is it just internet ranting?



Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:07 am to
Pete from PM keeps saying that Kendall Blanton is going to be the breakout player next year. He's big at 6'6", several players have talked about him being a freakish athlete. Pete also has been mentioning that when KB was in high school and at MIZZOU camp, he showed the best hands he had seen.
Could be the big go up and get the ball target that MIZZOU didn't have this year if Pete is right.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:42 am to
Will be interesting to see how he fits into the mix. I recall hearing nothing but praise about him as well. So Culkin, Reese, Echard and Blanton???? More 2 TE sets? Blanton at a WR spot?
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:20 am to
I see Blanton being a TE in name only operating almost exclusively out on the perimeter.
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter