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re: ***2015 Football Season Thread <<< 8-4 (4-4) >>> NEXT: BOWL***
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:07 am to Old Sarge
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:07 am to Old Sarge
Sat, Oct 10 -- Troy -- Starkville -- TBA
Sat, Oct 17 -- Louisiana Tech (HC) -- Starkville -- TBA
Sat, Oct 24 -- Kentucky * -- Starkville -- TBA
Thu, Nov 05 -- Missouri * -- Columbia, MO -- 8:00 p.m.
Sat, Nov 14 -- Alabama * -- Starkville -- TBA
Sat, Nov 21 -- Arkansas * -- Fayetteville, AR -- TBA
Sat, Nov 28 -- Ole Miss * -- Starkville -- TBA
So let's look at the rest of the schedule. We're 3-2 and 1-2.
I think we win our next 3 games, which puts us at 6-2 and 2-2. There's a lot to be done, but I think the next 3 are coming at just the right time to get some things figured out.
We can ease into the hardest part of our schedule with a winnable game at Missouri, and then have Bama, Arkansas, and Ole Miss. I like how the rest of the schedule sets up at least.
Sat, Oct 17 -- Louisiana Tech (HC) -- Starkville -- TBA
Sat, Oct 24 -- Kentucky * -- Starkville -- TBA
Thu, Nov 05 -- Missouri * -- Columbia, MO -- 8:00 p.m.
Sat, Nov 14 -- Alabama * -- Starkville -- TBA
Sat, Nov 21 -- Arkansas * -- Fayetteville, AR -- TBA
Sat, Nov 28 -- Ole Miss * -- Starkville -- TBA
So let's look at the rest of the schedule. We're 3-2 and 1-2.
I think we win our next 3 games, which puts us at 6-2 and 2-2. There's a lot to be done, but I think the next 3 are coming at just the right time to get some things figured out.
We can ease into the hardest part of our schedule with a winnable game at Missouri, and then have Bama, Arkansas, and Ole Miss. I like how the rest of the schedule sets up at least.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:18 am to DynastyDawg
Have to wonder if things change over the next three games. I expect to see a lot more of the young guys, at least some of your focus has to be on getting them experience for next year, and in the process you find out which ones can help us close out this season. We really needed this stretch of games earlier on this year.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:32 am to skirpnasty
Agree on that.
Spread teams always make me nervous and it's always the games our defense plays the worst it seems. I think we'll be fine on defense.
Mullen finally doesn't have a choice. Peters is going to play for Market, and he looked damn good in the second half.
Mullen is frustrating as frick. That's really all I took out of the game.
Spread teams always make me nervous and it's always the games our defense plays the worst it seems. I think we'll be fine on defense.
Mullen finally doesn't have a choice. Peters is going to play for Market, and he looked damn good in the second half.
Mullen is frustrating as frick. That's really all I took out of the game.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:42 am to DynastyDawg
I'm upset it took Market getting hurt to happen, but I'm so excited that Peters is on the field.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 7:50 am to skirpnasty
Yeah I feel bad for the guy, but happy on of our better players will see the field a lot more.
shite like running Dak the first couple of possessions with great success and then completely abandoning it baffles me. Not running the WR screen at all, De'Runnya fumbling.
shite just pisses me off.
shite like running Dak the first couple of possessions with great success and then completely abandoning it baffles me. Not running the WR screen at all, De'Runnya fumbling.
shite just pisses me off.
Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:44 am to DynastyDawg
I think Dak is using more Trojans than Evan this weekend.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:21 pm to DynastyDawg
We are misusing pretty much all our WRs. Im sure Bear deep down is frustrated in his lack of targets. I would be. Watching other offenses develop ways to force feed their stars the ball.
And what happened to the 2 RB sets we saw vs FCS team...its these issues that drive me crazy too...like we only use 15 plays a game and leave the rest in the locker room
And what happened to the 2 RB sets we saw vs FCS team...its these issues that drive me crazy too...like we only use 15 plays a game and leave the rest in the locker room
Posted on 10/6/15 at 12:43 pm to ibontherun
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Im sure Bear deep down is frustrated in his lack of targets.
Laquon Treadwell has 50 targets on the season:
Florida - 9
Vanderbilt - 16
Alabama - 9
Fresno St - 8
UT Martin - 8
Conference Game Total: 34
Non Conf Total: 16
De'Runnya has 34 targets on the season:
A&M - 7
Auburn 10
Northwestern - 1
LSU - 13
Southern - 3
Conference Game Total: 30
Non Conf Total: 4
I'm not sure I follow there.
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And what happened to the 2 RB sets we saw vs FCS team...its these issues that drive me crazy too...like we only use 15 plays a game and leave the rest in the locker room
Agree here.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 2:40 pm to DynastyDawg
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I'm not sure I follow there.
It's more a function of WHEN and HOW the targets come, I don't believe we design plays to get *insert player name here* the ball...which is frustrating. When the team needs a first down, or early in the game to establish a rhythm...do we feed him?? Or any WR for that matter
we still don't stretch the field vertically vs SEC teams
We let defenses dictate to us, instead of the other way around. What happened to the coach who would find a way to get Bumphis the ball any way we could?
Why recruit Donal Gray at all??? For him to ball out vs NW ST, then get 2 targets a game vs SEC teams??
and can anyone tell me why Dale is playing significant minutes at DT??? instead of Thomas, Harris, Hoyett, if we weren't ready to live and die with these young guys playing a bunch we should have signed a JUCO DT (but who's to say we wouldn't have redshirted him)
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:47 pm to ibontherun
What he said
This post was edited on 10/6/15 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 10/6/15 at 3:54 pm to ibontherun
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It's more a function of WHEN and HOW the targets come, I don't believe we design plays to get *insert player name here* the ball...which is frustrating. When the team needs a first down, or early in the game to establish a rhythm...do we feed him?? Or any WR for that matter
We do have one of the best WR corps in the conference. Maybe Dan trusts all of them? WR is easily our best position group, and is definitely doing their part. Fred Ross leads the conference by 9 receptions in SEC games with 27. So maybe Dan's "go to guy" is Ross, not De'Runnya. De'Runnya is probably my favorite player on the team, but I'm just not with you on this. There have been plenty of times Dan has used Wilson by himself on one side of the field and throws the slant for 7+ yards to get Dak into a rhythm.
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we still don't stretch the field vertically vs SEC teams
True.
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We let defenses dictate to us, instead of the other way around.
I agree with this, however I think at this point Dan has enough weapons on offense, specifically WR, that if you take one away he will just beat you with someone else instead of forcing something that isn't there.
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What happened to the coach who would find a way to get Bumphis the ball any way we could?
Bumphis was literally the only playmaker on that team outside of the running game. He didn't have much of a choice.
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Why recruit Donal Gray at all??? For him to ball out vs NW ST, then get 2 targets a game vs SEC teams??
Because he is a good athlete that has THREE YEARS to play for us? This is silly. Our passing game is the only thing keeping us together, so just because Dan isn't using the guy one of us sees fit isn't a reason to be upset.
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and can anyone tell me why Dale is playing significant minutes at DT??? instead of Thomas, Harris, Hoyett, if we weren't ready to live and die with these young guys playing a bunch we should have signed a JUCO DT (but who's to say we wouldn't have redshirted him)
I agree Dale is fricking terrible and honestly should never see the field. I think we did try to get a JUCO DT last year and we just couldn't get one and I think the one we were after ended up not making the grades or something? I don't remember specifically what ended up happening there.
There is plenty to criticize without going after targets for specific players, or our passing game in general. Yeah I agree that we need to stretch the field but it's not like our passing game isn't working so we need that to open some other things up, it would just be an added luxury at this point.
I'm just surprised we're having this discussion over something so irrelevant instead of the running game as a whole, even the offensive line, before getting bent out of shape over the very false idea that De'Runnya isn't utilized enough.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:31 pm to DynastyDawg
Is Thomas hurt? He was a beast in the Spring Game.
Posted on 10/6/15 at 4:41 pm to Allyn McKeen
I don't believe so, but he hasn't looked as good so far in the games this fall. That's just from what I have read, I haven't really noticed him in the games myself.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 8:56 am to DynastyDawg
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Dan's "go to guy" is Ross, not De'Runnya
This is probably true.
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instead of forcing something that isn't there
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Bumphis was literally the only playmaker on that team
I realize this...but I only brought that up to say that he was creative in the ways he would get Bumphis the ball. He wouldn't allow teams to take him away. That's all I am saying. There comes a point where you still need to be able to get your guy the ball.
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THREE YEARS to play for us
so because he has 3 years we should waste one?? I was just saying he could be used better
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false idea that De'Runnya isn't utilized enough.
you kinda missed my original thought that I feel like we are misusing most of our offensive weapons...i used Bear as an example. This isn't really about him specifically so much as it's about the lack of creativity on offense and overall craptastic playcalling most of the season (until we play NW ST, and probably Troy and La Tech
It goes back to a point i made in another thread...Mullen is conservative in playcalling and strategies when we are not the more talented team.
ETA: The run game is a product of the horrid OL play we have had Vs decent DL...which is why I didn't mention it. Maybe the OL issues are holding back the entire offense...who knows...but that's a real possibility imo
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 9:01 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:11 am to ibontherun
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I realize this...but I only brought that up to say that he was creative in the ways he would get Bumphis the ball. He wouldn't allow teams to take him away. That's all I am saying. There comes a point where you still need to be able to get your guy the ball.
I agree to an extent, and I still go back and forth. Trust me, I definitely want that superstar player at State that the media, other fanbases, etc., say look at how good that guy is. On the other hand, I like the approach of letting a defense try to take something away and then just beat them with something else because your passing attack is that good. I enjoy the X's and O's of the game so strategy is very interesting to me.
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so because he has 3 years we should waste one?? I was just saying he could be used better
It's not necessarily wasting anything. Gray is a tremendous athlete, but who are we talking about taking touches from to give him more? De'runnya, Ross? Are we taking away Dear's 1 touch a game? We have a good problem in that we have enough playmakers on offense that there isn't always enough balls to go around.
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you kinda missed my original thought that I feel like we are misusing most of our offensive weapons...i used Bear as an example. This isn't really about him specifically so much as it's about the lack of creativity on offense and overall craptastic playcalling most of the season (until we play NW ST, and probably Troy and La Tech
Well shite, I'm fricking 100% with you on the playcalling, I just misunderstood the reason you used De'Runnya as an example I guess.
frick the playcalling. We fricking run WR screens last year, fricking read options all year, fricking pitch options, all kinds of shite that works, and then you see none of it in conference games this year. We fricking come out against Northwestern State and pull out all of that shite and flash it right in front of us. It's like Dan is fricking taunting all of us. Look at what we can do, but guess what mother frickers, we're not going to do it when it matters. I'm going to overthink shite and plow ahead. Then in the first half against A&M, you see some of that shite, and guess what? IT frickING WORKS. So what do we do? Completely abandon it. What do we run on a crucial 3rd down in the second half? That same ole bullshite Dak up the middle for a no gain. I nearly lost it.
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Mullen is conservative in playcalling and strategies when we are not the more talented team.
100
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The run game is a product of the horrid OL play we have had Vs decent DL...which is why I didn't mention it. Maybe the OL issues are holding back the entire offense...who knows...but that's a real possibility imo
What we were doing last year covered a lot of the imperfections of our offensive line. Screens, different kinds of options, it lets you just completely let defenders take themselves out of plays instead of having to block them. This year, when we need that kind of shite the most, nothing.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 10:28 am to DynastyDawg
Dontavian Lee having off the field issues. Paul and Robbie confirm. Apparently it's nothing that will get him suspended, my guess is missing class, or not getting good grades. Either way his touches will continue to be minimal until it gets turned around.
Can't wait to see what the board has to say about this.
Can't wait to see what the board has to say about this.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:38 am to DynastyDawg
He's probably only getting bad grades because he is sad about not getting more carries.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 11:50 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Then it sounds like a RFR needs to learn his place.
Posted on 10/12/15 at 1:21 pm to DynastyDawg
anyone got a single in the scoreboard club to sell? we can be bff if so
Posted on 10/12/15 at 2:00 pm to DynastyDawg
According to Mullen (Presser), Lee not playing more is about not knowing 100% what to do.
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