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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:50 pm to
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Seems like UGA feels Auburn's Defensive staff sucks and won't get everything out of Lawson



Gus Malzahn don't care about no defense. He is the Ricky Bobby of college football man.

I still don't believe our boosters would give a kid money to steer him from one rival to another. Makes very little logical sense. At the time, AU was a better team then UT.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:52 pm to
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then shouldn't you be trying to not put all that info out onto the internet?


And again, you may be 100% right I have no way to disprove you, it just doesn't make sense. Whether he goes to UT or AU, we still have to play against him eveyr year. If we wanted him to go to, say ole miss or bama instead of UT that would make sense. But having to play him 3/4 times regardless of where he goes, just doesnt' make logical sense.


Nobody can do anything with what I'm putting on the internet. I've been contacted by the NCAA twice, neither time had anything to do with Alabama, but they wanted to know what I knew about School X. They know I don't and won't cooperate with them.

In regards to "rather him go to _____", (redacted) was only considering Auburn, Tennessee, and Clemson at that stage of his recruitment. Nobody viewed Clemson as a serious threat, even though he visited there. And as I stated, Georgia people were convinced he would end up being a much better player at Tennessee and that if he ended up at Auburn, he wouldn't live up to the hype or be fully developed. I'd say at this point in time, they were right. In two full games against UGA, Lawson has totaled 1 tackle. Meanwhile, Tennessee has had several top notch defensive linemen be developed by Steve Stripling.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:52 pm to
yeah I got that reasoning, I just don't buy it.

It would be the most richt/uga thing ever if we got hit with probation for cheating on behalf of another school. Good Lord I can't even imagine.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:54 pm to
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It would be the most richt/uga thing ever if we got hit with probation for cheating on behalf of another school. Good Lord I can't even imagine.


Won't happen.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:54 pm to
another point that PBF hit on...

Lawson was recruited after the 2012 football season. AU had just come off a mediocre '11 and a 3-9 '12 season. Meanwhile UT had just fired derek dooley and was bringing in a coach from cincinnati.

Without the benefit of hindsight (which, during CL's recruitment nobody would have) it makes even LESS sense. I doubt we would enter the game at that point considering both of those programs were well below what UGA was at the time.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Meanwhile, Tennessee has had several top notch defensive linemen be developed by Steve Stripling.


whose first year at UT was 2013. He hadn't even coached a single player yet during CL's recruitment.
Posted by sugatowng
Look at my bling Bitches
Member since Nov 2006
25329 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

yeah I got that reasoning, I just don't buy it.


In the grand scheme of things...it's not that far fetched
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Lawson was recruited after the 2012 football season. AU had just come off a mediocre '11 and a 3-9 '12 season. Meanwhile UT had just fired derek dooley and was bringing in a coach from cincinnati.

Without the benefit of hindsight (which, during CL's recruitment nobody would have) it makes even LESS sense. I doubt we would enter the game at that point considering both of those programs were well below what UGA was at the time.


Auburn had come off a horrendous 2012 season and didn't look like they'd be worth a shite for a very long time, and they had just hired a high school coach that nobody in the college coaching profession had any respect for. UT had hired an up and coming rock star in Butch Jones, and had Steve Stipling as its defensive line coach. Stripling is one of the most well respected position coaches in the game.

And again, the money put up by people from UGA was nothing. Pennies. Most people see several thousand dollars as some huge deal. It's not. These people spend more on their pet grooming bills.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 1:59 pm to
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He hadn't even coached a single player yet during CL's recruitment.


Steve Stripling has been around a long, long time. Very highly thought of and respected by those in coaching circles.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Auburn had come off a horrendous 2012 season and didn't look like they'd be worth a shite for a very long time, and they had just hired a high school coach that nobody in the college coaching profession had any respect for. UT had hired an up and coming rock star in Butch Jones, and had Steve Stipling as its defensive line coach. Stripling is one of the most well respected position coaches in the game.

And again, the money put up by people from UGA was nothing. Pennies. Most people see several thousand dollars as some huge deal. It's not. These people spend more on their pet grooming bills.


You expect people to take this seriously?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:03 pm to
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Most people see several thousand dollars as some huge deal. It's not. These people spend more on their pet grooming bills.


The point isn't the monetary amount. It's that we would actively recruit for one of our biggest rivals against another big rival, both of which were in the dumpster at the time. And it's not like we're talking about a QB or RB, we're talking about a DE here. Highly rated and sky high potential sure, but a DE nonetheless.

And again, based on how UGA/AU/UT programs were after the 2012 season, I doubt we'd take the risk of entering this game. We were so far above those programs at the time I don't see why we'd even bother.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

You expect people to take this seriously?


I don't particularly care whether you take anything I say seriously or not.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

The point isn't the monetary amount. It's that we would actively recruit for one of our biggest rivals against another big rival, both of which were in the dumpster at the time. And it's not like we're talking about a QB or RB, we're talking about a DE here. Highly rated and sky high potential sure, but a DE nonetheless.

And again, based on how UGA/AU/UT programs were after the 2012 season, I doubt we'd take the risk of entering this game. We were so far above those programs at the time I don't see why we'd even bother.


We're talking about a few specific individuals in a very large network of boosters. Jack, especially, is very well connected in Georgia high school sports as well. As a fan, I think you're exactly right. Neither program seemed to be much of a threat. However, as an individual with deep ties to recruiting in the state of Georgia and with connections on the UGA coaching staff, Jack felt like he had a vested interest in keeping (redacted) away from Tennessee. You'd have to ask him why it was so important to him with the shape of the two programs in question. That's not a conversation he and I ever had.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:11 pm to
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I've been contacted by the NCAA twice, neither time had anything to do with Alabama, but they wanted to know what I knew about School X


why were you contacted? How did they tie you personally into any of this?
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:22 pm to
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why were you contacted? How did they tie you personally into any of this?


An easy way to "punt" is to tell the NCAA "I don't know anything about ______, but you may want to give ______ a call and see what he knows." It's almost turned into a running prank in these booster circles. "Which one of you assholes gave them my number this time?" We all mess with each other. In the two instances I mentioned, I actually didn't know much about either situation and told them to stop calling me.
This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:26 pm to
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An easy way to "punt" is to tell the NCAA "I don't know anything about ______, but you may want to give ______ a call and see what he knows."


seems kinda shitty. Why wouldn't you instead say,

quote:

"I don't know anything about ______,
and not bring heat on your associates?
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

seems kinda shitty.


Not if everyone else does it and gets a kick out of it.

quote:

and not bring heat on your associates?


It's all a big game. Annoy your friends while making the NCAA, who we all mutually loathe, chase their incompetent tails.
Posted by CrazyCadillac
Member since Oct 2011
1919 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:29 pm to
Please go die
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

making the NCAA, who we all mutually loathe, chase their incompetent tails.


that's cool but that doesn't change the fact they know who you are and have been mentioned on multiple occasions when it comes to cheating. Hell, even if you were 100% innocent (which you've admitted that you are not), seems like it'd only be inconveniencing yourself.
Posted by Disassociated
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

that's cool but that doesn't change the fact they know who you are and have been mentioned on multiple occasions when it comes to cheating. Hell, even if you were 100% innocent (which you've admitted that you are not), seems like it'd only be inconveniencing yourself.


Every major booster at every SEC school, save maybe Vanderbilt, has been "mentioned multiple times." Nobody is 100% innocent, and the only inconvenience is having to answer the phone and pass the buck.
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