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re: UK Is behind us...time for Bama
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:42 pm to reel_gator8
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:42 pm to reel_gator8
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I think we will operate at warp speed to begin the game and try to get the defense soften up some
I agree with this right here. A relative of mine today texted me some thoughts and observations about the offense and I will figure I will share them with the board.
In his words:
"I gotta tell you man what UF has shown on offense so far has looked nothing like what I have seen in practice and I have watched them in every practice. First of all, right now we are just running a no huddle not a hurry up. There is nothing really up-tempo about what we are doing at all. I've seen this team run up-tempo in practice and scrimmages and they are way faster then what they are doing now. They were going at Oregon and Auburn speed in practice. Next we haven't even really run the base plays I saw every time I went out there. RB slip screens, TE roll outs, Debose in the slot running the jet sweeps and hitch and curls (he must do that for about 20 snaps a practice) mesh routes (thats probably Ropers favorite play from what I seen) and some play action option packages. Driskel keeps the ball on about 70% of his zone reads and they used used to let the defense rattle his cage somewhat. Take it fwiw but in my personal honest opinion, there is a whole lot of deception and bluffing going on here if you know what I mean"
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 4:50 am to olemc999
How much did Driskel struggling in the first half against UK limit the playcalling though?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 5:33 am to boXerrumble
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How much did Driskel struggling in the first half against UK limit the playcalling though?
About as much as the four dropped passes that were sure first downs.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 5:38 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The dropped pass by Pittman on first possession was a killer...he had room to gain even more yardage...we could have marched in for TD to set the tone. Poop happens and Pittman made a huge play when he ran down the UK DB that picked off Driskel and was headed to the house with it...saved a TD.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 5:43 am to reel_gator8
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The dropped pass by Pittman on first possession was a killer...he had room to gain even more yardage...we could have marched in for TD to set the tone. Poop happens and Pittman made a huge play when he ran down the UK DB that picked off Driskel and was headed to the house with it...saved a TD.
Then there was that drop by Burton where Driskel got blasted in the face on Third and 8 but threw a perfect pitch, right into his chest.
And I'm just tired of everyone blaming Driskel whenever the offense starts doing bad. Like I said: Dude did what he could with what he had, and it wasn't much.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 6:25 am to olemc999
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"I gotta tell you man what UF has shown on offense so far has looked nothing like what I have seen in practice and I have watched them in every practice.
That was my observation from the few practices I attended too. Somethins up!
Posted on 9/17/14 at 6:58 am to Themole
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"I gotta tell you man what UF has shown on offense so far has looked nothing like what I have seen in practice and I have watched them in every practice.
That was my observation from the few practices I attended too. Somethins up!
I just don't know why we do this, though. I understand the element of surprise and all that jazz, but we need...to practice. In real time. Our best attributes. Oregon, Texas A&M, Baylor, Alabama, Auburn, etc. etc. Don't worry about this crap and just run their offenses and dare you to stop them.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I refuse to believe that we are holding back for my own sanity.
That way, if we are, I'll be as giddy as a school girl.
That way, if we are, I'll be as giddy as a school girl.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:14 am to roadGator
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I refuse to believe that we are holding back for my own sanity.
That way, if we are, I'll be as giddy as a school girl.
I literally can't believe that we would hold it back so much that we would almost lose a game at home to Kentucky in triple overtime. That makes no sense.
I'm sure they are, it's just really not smart.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:16 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I find that extremely hard to believe. I really do. Florida fans say this crap every single year, and it is almost never true that I have seen.
I can't imagine that Muschamp and Roper were holding ANYTHING back against Kentucky. Considering they almost lost.
I can't imagine that Muschamp and Roper were holding ANYTHING back against Kentucky. Considering they almost lost.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 7:23 am to slayerxing
I still don't get why Debose wasn't involved at all in the offense vs UK and why Driskel isn't keeping it more.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 7:27 am
Posted on 9/17/14 at 8:17 am to boXerrumble
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why Driskel isn't keeping it more.
Has to have been the plan. Some of the times we ran the read he could have run for miles. There is no other explanation. JD is certainly capable of running that particular play well.
Saban won't fall for that though. He knows what we fans know certainly. I just hope we can catch that weakside DE cheating a couple of times.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 8:24 am to boXerrumble
Debose is such a weapon on special teams. Just put him in the slot and let him run crossing routes or something. All he needs is a little bit of space and he can break a play open. Get the man the ball! Pittman CANT be better than him at WR.....
Posted on 9/17/14 at 11:19 am to slayerxing
Pittman may be a much better blocker...have you thought of that? WRs just don't catch passes...they have to block....run crisp routes even when being used as a decoy...etc etc. I trust the coaches to put players in position to help the team.
QBs have such a small window to operate from and get passes off in several seconds before being crushed. Driskel did take some big hits and didn't flinch except one time when he was under duress and threw the ill advised pass that was picked off. He tried to do too much....he knew immediately he made a bone headed mistake and was disgusted with himself. Thank God Pittman gave max effort and caught the DB.
QBs have such a small window to operate from and get passes off in several seconds before being crushed. Driskel did take some big hits and didn't flinch except one time when he was under duress and threw the ill advised pass that was picked off. He tried to do too much....he knew immediately he made a bone headed mistake and was disgusted with himself. Thank God Pittman gave max effort and caught the DB.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:12 pm to reel_gator8
Listen, I'm not hating on Pittman. But here are the facts:
On the season, he has 4 catches for 24 yards (which is actually IDENTICAL to his previous career production (2012 - 2 catches, 6 yards, 2013 - 2 catches 18 yards).
The whole - maybe he's a better blocker, is great and all. And certainly important on running plays, but what is the ultimate goal of a slot wide receiver? It's not blocking! They are typically lined up behind the LOS, so they don't have to take instant punishment like the split end (one of the outside WR's). So they can afford to be a bit smaller and faster. Pittman is not a threat (or at least, doesn't appear to be a threat) in the passing game, and hasn't been for 3 years now. Maybe someone else should get a shot. That's all I'm saying.
On the season, he has 4 catches for 24 yards (which is actually IDENTICAL to his previous career production (2012 - 2 catches, 6 yards, 2013 - 2 catches 18 yards).
The whole - maybe he's a better blocker, is great and all. And certainly important on running plays, but what is the ultimate goal of a slot wide receiver? It's not blocking! They are typically lined up behind the LOS, so they don't have to take instant punishment like the split end (one of the outside WR's). So they can afford to be a bit smaller and faster. Pittman is not a threat (or at least, doesn't appear to be a threat) in the passing game, and hasn't been for 3 years now. Maybe someone else should get a shot. That's all I'm saying.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 12:50 pm to slayerxing
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Just put him in the slot and let him run crossing routes or something. All he needs is a little bit of space and he can break a play open.
I'm with you on this one. Debose is such a big threat in open space, he needs to get more touches.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:39 am to gatorsimz
I cant disagree with the stats except to state again that there is more than pass catching as a wr and he may be heads and shoulders better than Debose at blocking? I trust Leak and Roper to use the right players at the right times to help the team.
BTW...don't dismiss blocking as not important in our scheme. An extra second of time tieing up a would be tackler can result in extra 10-15 yds or more production in our offense. This game isn't dependent on our offense making huge plays...lets be sure about that...its about our defense stopping their run game. We will get enough offense and as long as we can move chains on third downs and not be forced into bad field position,,,we are ok. Can our DL manhandle the Bama OL? I think they can and will. Nothing will frustrate their offense than having our defense get at least six to eight stops at the line of scrimmage or for a loss. Can Sims handle our pressure on 2nd and 3rd and longs? I don't think he can. We have an experienced qb and he can operate smoothly and get some first downs and wait for their mistakes. Defense and special teams will determine who wins and the team that has the most rushing yds will win...keep that in mind.
BTW...don't dismiss blocking as not important in our scheme. An extra second of time tieing up a would be tackler can result in extra 10-15 yds or more production in our offense. This game isn't dependent on our offense making huge plays...lets be sure about that...its about our defense stopping their run game. We will get enough offense and as long as we can move chains on third downs and not be forced into bad field position,,,we are ok. Can our DL manhandle the Bama OL? I think they can and will. Nothing will frustrate their offense than having our defense get at least six to eight stops at the line of scrimmage or for a loss. Can Sims handle our pressure on 2nd and 3rd and longs? I don't think he can. We have an experienced qb and he can operate smoothly and get some first downs and wait for their mistakes. Defense and special teams will determine who wins and the team that has the most rushing yds will win...keep that in mind.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 3:09 pm to reel_gator8
I still think turnovers and third down conversions are the biggest part of this game for FLorida.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:48 pm to slayerxing
I think we can give 'Bama a game as long as we can defend the run consistently. Saban will want to hide Sims/Coker as much as he can. I hope we can get after them and force some mistakes.
I believe we can give them a game. I'd feel a lot better if we had Harrison though.
I believe we can give them a game. I'd feel a lot better if we had Harrison though.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:57 pm to jefffan
Placeholder for stupid Gump in Bear Bryant thread falling back on the "Oh yeah, we are going to whip your arse this weekend" argument.
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