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This mess is not all Mac's fault.

Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 2:30 pm
The problems we're having is because of Jeremy Foley. Who refused to pay for top assistants like a top SEC, who refused to invest in facilities when they were needed most, who hired unproven disasters in Zook, WM and now Mac. Who's terrible negotiating led to us paying WM $6M to take our recruits and paid $5M to hire Mac and then gave him a 6 year deal from the start. Not only that he hires unproven Mike White in bball and gives a 10 yr with a 500k buyout for each year deal to a baseball coach who's sport doesn't bring in revenue. More lost money from football.

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Florida has six off the field guys who focus on recruiting. Alabama has 17. Auburn has 12. See a pattern?


Andrew Spivey.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:57 pm to
Oh I see a pattern alright and you are pathetic TJ.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11431 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 4:45 pm to
Did Foley pee in your cereal or something? give it rest, the pattern here is you bashing Foley for everything from the soccer team losing to global warming.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 5:27 pm to
Foley is the greatest AD ever I forgot. Not SOS it was Foley.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/4/16 at 11:40 pm to
I wish I had perspective on other campuses, but a big problem in my view, with regard to facilities is this: where would they go? Campus is already crowded. When it came time to start women's lax, it had to go all the way out to where the bug people are.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 5:21 am to
I hated it years ago when the NCAA in their infinite wisdom decreed that there shouldnt be athletic only dorms and then schools were forced to spread out athletes in different locations. Coaches could no longer keep an eye on their kids and the chance to form stronger bonds.

Of course the real reasoning behind this move was to make kids student athletes?
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:19 am to
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The problems we're having is because of Jeremy Foley.


While I agree that we have fallen behind on the facilities.

There is only one AD who has won Football and Basketball titles in the same year.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:37 am to
That was a decade ago. How's the football team done since then?
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:42 am to
I don't think that saying Foley might've had a few oversights means that he wasn't a great a AD. No one is perfect. We are definitely behind in facilities and personnel, and as much as I wish it wasn't true, just saying that we are Florida and that we won some championships a decade ago isn't enough to close the gap between our program and programs like Alabama.

Saying as much doesn't mean the Foley still isn't a legend. Maybe that was behind the surprise retirement though. Maybe he looked at the necessary changes coming and thought, "I've had a good run. Maybe it's time to hand the reins over to someone else."
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2091 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 8:57 am to
Sorry but the day a HC says my dog could be successful running my offense. Then your offense is this bad you deserve all the criticism you get this mess is not all Mac's fault I agree but he is the head man so I am sorry but the blame will and should fall squarely on his shoulders.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 4:31 pm to
I thought the Ol would progress more and I was wrong..we ended up starting a true frosh at ROT so obviously the coaches felt it was an upgrade over what we had.

I thought Johnson playing guard was out of position for him, he is tall and a mountain of a man..guards usually are a little shorter and compact to bulldoze opponents or pull for a lead block. Remember we have Stone Forsythe in the wings as a r/s frosh I believe and he is a 6'7 340 type.

I think Mac was being comical about his dog...come on.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35588 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:15 pm to
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I think Mac was being comical about his dog...come on.

It was complete arrogance that he hasn't been able to back up yet. As liberal as you sound, I bet you were a Hillary supporter. As much crap as he's said and done in the past, you still feel like he's a good fit. Gimme a break.
This post was edited on 12/10/16 at 7:16 pm
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

I think Mac was being comical about his dog...come on.


I've seen Clara-belle play, deadly accurate with some scrambling ability. A little undersized though.

Ppl need to face the fact that other than Grier, we have had mutts under Center who have not won anywhere else.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 12/10/16 at 7:31 pm to
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As much crap as he's said and done in the past, you still feel like he's a good fit. Gimme a break.



13-3 against the SEC in the regular season
11-1 at home
2 division championships in two years
Forcing facility upgrades

And all this despite having a Purdue exile, an Oregon State exile, and a 5'9 midget at QB.

Despite all of the shite we've had at QB, he's managed to win and win often.

I like the winning stuff. He's only going to do more and more of it. That's why he's a good fit.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
1946 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 12:42 pm to
I can't believe he hasn't fired Nuss yet.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:07 pm to
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