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re: OK everyone who wants Mullen fired, what then? Who do we hire?

Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41926 posts
Posted on 11/1/21 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Hugh Freeze


Jim McElwain spanked his arse when he had his best team. I’m just saying they all have flaws.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 5:43 am to
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This whole Jekyll and Hyde shite, not knowing which team will show up on any given Saturday bothers the hell out of me.


Yep. Mullen is a mix of getting blown out, losing to shite teams, and the occasional moral victory when we keep it close against a really good team.

If this is a “rebuilding year” coming off an 8-4 season, we are completely screwed.
Posted by UFMatt
In Traitor Joe Biden's US
Member since Oct 2010
11555 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:57 am to
Mullen not going anywhere so not wasting time on wondering who the next Head coach will be. Now DC is another story.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52319 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:18 am to
Look, if you guys are fine with 8-4 seasons, just say so.

I'm personally going to live my life one way or the other regardless if UF wins or not.

But don't complain and do serious revision history for supporting Mullen if we're here again next November, and UF is 4-4 again.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35903 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:44 am to
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Look, if you guys are fine with 8-4 seasons, just say so.


i think you got it backwards. i don't think anyone is happy with 8-4.

but you gotta be realistic. there's no coach out there that's going to be any better. in fact, if he leaves, his replacement may cause more concerns. he seems to have "woken up" based on his press conference yesterday. if he survives the virility of his recruiting comments, i'm willing to see what kind of changes he can accomplish.

if he re-signs all of the assistants we hate, he'll also be signing his own "death warrant" as the head coach of Florida Football.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52319 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 8:50 am to
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he seems to have "woken up" based on his press conference yesterday. if he survives the virility of his recruiting comments, i'm willing to see what kind of changes he can accomplish.


Mullen has coached for over 10 years in the SEC now.

I seriously doubt he had some sort of "light-bulb" moment yesterday.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2857 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:56 am to
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They beat our arse, but so fricking what, we beat their arse last year and we are going to beat their arse next year.


Lol. What in the world possibly makes this a valid statement? UGA played an awful game on offense and beat us by 4 touchdowns. Their recruiting is far beyond ours and will continue to be. We apparently kicked their arse last year with half their D out and it was only a 2 possession game from the end of the 3rd quarter until we kicked a field goal with a minute left. Their QB’s went 9-29 for 112 yards and 3 pics and we were only up 13. Bro get your head out of your arse - Mullen will never beat Kirby again.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2857 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 9:58 am to
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Mullen signed an extension 8 months ago he is not going anywhere. No matter how much you gripe and moan.

Let see what he does after the season with his staff and go from there.


Agreed. I’ve wanted him gone but I have no interest in becoming Tennessee. Give him another year - he’s not going to light the world on fire and wait for someone who could lead this program back to greatness to arrive.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
1534 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 10:05 am to
Just having a good recruiter would be better than what is going on now. Not sure what happens to Mullen but unless Richardson turns out to be a good one next season he is a dead man walking in 2022 I think.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41926 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 11:02 am to
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Look, if you guys are fine with 8-4 seasons, just say so.


I am fine with an occasional 8-4 season, but you are playing semantics with this. Last season was a 10 win season in a regular year. So counting that as an 8 win season is disingenuous. 8 win teams don't go to a NY6 bowl.

Also, other than LSU our losses the last 2 seasons were to some pretty good teams. A&M, Bama, OU, Bama, Kentucky, Georgia.

I don't like it and it is not acceptable as a rule, but occasionally I am fine with it. If he doesn't snap out of it his seat will get hot for sure, but let's not throw away a good coach for one bad season, when his first 3 were pretty good seasons.
Posted by Louisiana Gator
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
678 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 11:23 am to
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unless Richardson turns out to be a good one next season he is a dead man walking in 2022 I think.


I agree with this. He should definitely get one more year WITHOUT Grantham. Get an ace recruiter(or 2). See if Cousin Eddie can get it turned around
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Jim McElwain spanked his arse when he had his best team. I’m just saying they all have flaws.



Freeze's biggest problem is that he actually IS the person everyone accuses Lane Kiffin of being.

I don't have a problem with the hookers, honestly. I have a problem with thumping a Bible to recruit and selling all that B.S. while banging hookers on the side. Dude is a total charlatan. He was football Jimmy Swaggart.

But his biggest problem isn't all that or even that he paid players, which he never did. That's the really important thing about the whole Freeze debacle that everyone misses. If he'd been running the pay-for-play, that would have been one thing, but if you read the actual NCAA case, he basically got let off. And in case you think I'm full of it, a refresher -

LINK /

What he got nailed for was not knowing what the hell his coaches and boosters were doing, and it sure didn't help when it came out that one of the reasons may have been because he was getting his dick wet all over the U.S. while he was supposedly recruiting. Meanwhile, the good ole boy blowhards back in Oxford are playing bagman and bragging about it.

Ole Miss was too big a job for him at the end of the day. Does anyone think a rehab stint at Liberty means he's ready to step up to UF. Yeah, he may win some games, but at what cost? A post-season ban for a few years? No thanks.

I've zero reason to trust that guy won't leave UF in worse shape than he left Ole Miss when he "resigned" back in 2017.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 5:39 pm to
It’s not the on field play as much as the bad decisions that have people worried.

Not starting Richardson until Georgia.
Keeping grantham
Recruiting comments
Stupid comments about qb play

Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1034 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:01 am to
The "what then? Who do we hire?" question is not the way I'd look at this whole situation. That's basically saying you're afraid of change itself. I'm not an AD so I haven't vetted any potential candidates nor do I watch/analyze enough game film from other teams to really answer that without just going with the usual, often brought up names for a new HC opening. I agree that the 5-10 names brought up as the next potential great hire aren't real exciting to me. But instead of asking "what then?" I prefer to ask "am I extremely confident that Mullen can get it done?". If the answer is no, then it's time to move on, end of story.
I'm willing to give Mullen another year if he revamps his staff, but as of now I'm not confident that he'll ever be able to put all the pieces together to build a championship team and have a championship season.
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1034 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:56 am to
Open Letter to Dan

quote:

If you say you’ll give relentless effort in everything you do and you define that as “The Gator Standard,” you better mean it.

That better mean giving relentless effort in making necessary coaching staff changes (Florida needs several, starting with defensive coordinator Todd Grantham).

That better mean giving relentless effort on the recruiting trail


quote:

Call me crazy, Dan, but I think you can win at Florida. I’ve seen what you can do with a quarterback. I’ve seen you game-plan against great teams when you’ve trusted your guy under center and had playmakers at your disposal. But nothing in life is handed to you, and the pressure of competing is a privilege.


Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35903 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:59 am to
i saw that yesterday. gotta like kirby's statements. it's almost as if he he was specifically talking TOWARDS Dan.


quote:

“I don’t care who you are. The best coach to ever play the game better be a good recruiter because no coaching is going to out-coach players. Anyone will tell you our defense is good because we’ve got good players. Spending time on the phone, spending time with people at your house, spending time with people on your campus, I’m not with my family when I’m doing that. My family sacrifices so that I can go and spend time with other people’s families so that we can have good players. That’s 25% evaluation, 50% recruiting, and the other 25% is coaching. If you don’t recruit, guys, you’ve got no chance.



i remember urbs saying something to the opposite effect.

ESPN (2012)

quote:

"Talent will get you about seven or eight wins," said the former Florida, Utah and Bowling Green coach. "Discipline will start pushing that to nine. Then when you get leadership that's when magic starts happening. It's when you start getting rings and some really cool things are happening to your team."


This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 7:02 am
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1034 posts
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:46 am to
Great leadership leads to great talent wanting to come play for you. I think it's clear that having top recruits is important, but so is great coaching. Neither one, by themselves, will win championships.
Mullen seems to think great coaching/scheme can do it all.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5901 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 5:30 am to
How about this guy?

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35903 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:09 am to
that dude just got fired.
Posted by Talon95
Kenosha Kickers Fan
Member since Oct 2020
282 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:51 am to
Is Dabo an option?

Hes a good motivational speaker
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