Honestly, sometimes, it's just better to rip the bandage off...

I still think you force him to hire an OC first but yeah, this isn't looking good.

I can deal with opinions like the OP. However, Gary, that’s a bad take. The team hasn’t quit. Got whipped and didn’t show up in the 1H =/= quitting. The defense made 2 straight stops to end 1H and has multiple stops already in 2H. Again, bad take.

#10, #8 and #16.
Wow

The thing that bothers me is he apparently thinks everyone but him is wrong??

At the press conference after the game on whether or not the criticism of his play calling is accurate:

“I think there’s always good and bad. Some of it is well deserved. Some of it, you know, maybe they don’t quite know what they’re talking about. I think it’s probably a mixed bag.”

He's a terrible OC but theoretically we could force him to hire an OC so that's potentially fixable.

Always looking undisciplined and like we don't give a shite on the road is not as fixable because that's 100% Billy's personality being the problem IMO.

Portal isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

Kimber
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This team quit. Laid down on defense. Once that happens, it's really difficult for it not to happen ever again.

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whose fault is that?

Napier has done a lot of good things:
-most of the players worthwhile are guys he brought in
-top 5 recruiting class
-hired Armstrong who has the D looking a lot better (outside of UK game)
-has seemingly created a good culture within the program

However, we’re going to see if he’s just another stubborn coach like Muschamp or if he will put his ego aside and hire an OC. At the end of the day we have to score points to win. He has proven he’s not an SEC caliber OC.

My fear is he believes it’s not him or his scheme and that he just needs his players.

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Honestly, sometimes, it's just better to rip the bandage off...

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Sometimes it is, but we're assuming that we'll make a better hire next time.

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Free Shoes fired Taggart year two

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Yes, after they had Bowden for like two decades and then Jimbo for 8 years in which he won a natty, several NY6 bowls, and 10 win seasons.

In the last 8 years we've fired 3 coaches.

Our situation is closer to Nebraska and Tennessee than Free Shoes' situation.

I do think tough conversations should be had, but if the solution was as easy as firing a coach, would we be in this situation?

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True, but I also believe they were left in at least as bad of shape as we were after Taggart, and by most accounts it was considerably worse.

The truth is, when you hire the right guy even a generational rebuild doesn't take a generation, see Lance Leipold. And I'm not definitively saying Billy isn't the guy, I was his biggest cheerleader during the post Mullen coaching search, but we've all seen some startling trends that haven't seemed to be remotely addressed. I'm not saying he needs to be fired tomorrow but like I said, tough conversations need to by had, and had IMMEDIATELY. It's been a rough decade+ for Gator Nation, and I'm just ready to finally effing come out on the other side.

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Leipold has done a fine job, but taking a perpetual cellar dweller and making them competitive is a bit of a different challenge than taking a program that has been to the top before out of the depths. At Kansas, when LL started, a 6-7 win season would be considered a massive success. Same with Deion at Colorado. Winning 3 games is an accomplishment off the gate, but if he ends up winning 4-5 games this year, we can say it is successful from a 1 win team, but it is not considered successful at the highest levels at all (not to mention, he flipped the entire roster, so it technically is the same team from last year in name and jersey color only. Not to take away from what he's done, he has had CU look good at times, but this is a different team from that 1 win squad). Hell, people are freaking out that we will only win 5 games this year, so to say, success is relative.

So there's the catch, Napier looks terrible with his game day coaching. But is it just learning curve? Does he need to make some adjustments? More talent? Hard questions need to be asked immediately, but I am not ready to say that it is whether or not we should fire Napier this season (if we lose next week to Vandy, then I'll be on board with that discussion).

Norvell went 5-7 in year 2 and lost to Jax State at home. FSU fans and media were asking if they should foot his buyout and start over. They didn't and now they're in a better position.

We look bad under Billy sure. If the recruiting class starts unravelling the hard questions become a bit easier to ask and will be asked a lot louder.