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Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:45 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:45 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
This team may drop every remaining game
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If we don't have a QB who's fault is that? The head coach who recruits them. 6 Mac QBs and none are good enough
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:48 pm to gatorbait_007
“The plan is good. The execution piece needs to get better,” McElwain said of Florida’s offense when asked why the Gators failed to convert on third down and extend drives in the second half
But in a larger way, McElwain could not be more wrong.
You see, it is McElwain and offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier who call this offense. It is that duo that chose not to allow star freshman running back Malik Davis or talented sophomore RB Lamichal Perine to touch the ball at midfield while calling three consecutive pass plays — two play actions — in the second half. None of the plays gained a single yard; Davis was averaging 7.6 yards per touch, while Perine was averaging 4.8 yards per carry at the time.
Article with more here.
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But in a larger way, McElwain could not be more wrong.
You see, it is McElwain and offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier who call this offense. It is that duo that chose not to allow star freshman running back Malik Davis or talented sophomore RB Lamichal Perine to touch the ball at midfield while calling three consecutive pass plays — two play actions — in the second half. None of the plays gained a single yard; Davis was averaging 7.6 yards per touch, while Perine was averaging 4.8 yards per carry at the time.
Article with more here.
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:49 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We could've had James Blackman but didn't want to make Allen mad.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:00 pm to TJGator1215
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Everybody else's fault except Mac
That is funny. The head coach is to blame for everything because he has all of the control. I don't understand why the QB gets most of the blame because he is not very good. It's the head coaches job to get the best players possible on the team and on the field.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:04 pm to gatorbait_007
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His reasoning for the end of half playcalling. Hoping we get a pass interference. Also didn't know he had a timeout left. Said play calling there players messing up. Asked about Zaire playing he says we will do what we do every week.
Did he really say this? Why must we have a clueless coach?
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:48 pm to TJGator1215
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Everybody else's fault except Mac
''McElwain needs to be more aggressive on fourth and one.''
''He should have played Zaire, or at least given him another chance.''
What TJ Hears:
''Players lost the game.''
What I said:
''Franks lost the game.''
This is Franks. You guys can talk about ''who's supposed to bring up the quarterback'' all you want.
Again:
We produced adequate yardage (something now is unimportant to you, TJ), we were in place to win the game (again), we improved our gameplan on offense and ultimately we played them better than Alabama did.
McElwain didn't throw into double coverage when there was a wide open receiver downfield that Franks panicked and didn't see, McElwain didn't run out of bounds, break the pocket, take useless sacks, not read the field and miss wide open receivers.
This is 100% on Franks at quarterback -- and you guys want options but our last option has a broken collarbone.
Now it's Zaire.
Franks isn't ready, he wasn't even supposed to be ready, that's why we brought in another transfer to get us more experience at quarterback.
The offense produced, McElwain did what you fricks wanted -- better than Bama. Franks didn't finish. He shite all over the bed when the team needed him, and it's not the first time in the history of football a freshman hasn't lived up to the hype.
This is literally not on anyone else's head.
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Everybody else's fault except Mac
Just Franks.
The entire team was courageous and played with guts, they were hunrgy. The defensive line fricking wrecked their offensive line. We held them the entire game with a depleted defense.
Our running backs made some amazing plays, we ran a jet sweep to get a touchdown. We got a buck fifty running the ball, receivers made plays and did what they could. Tight Ends were used in the game.
What the frick else do you want when we don't have the most valuable piece on any given offense? He did everything we said he should do and one player came up short and it fricking sucks.
But we weren't supposed to beat A&M, the line doesn't matter. We were supposed to lose, you all predicted us to lose, and we lose by 2 and again you guys freak out and call for heads but look at the stats. Look at everything outside of Franks.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 12:47 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If Trask wasn't injured he would of gotten a shot this year. He can actually go through progressions. He is Del Rio with an NFL arm.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:45 am to olemc999
Franks will be okay if he plays as a junior, but he is just not ready.
If they don't play Zaire, it's an indictment on the coaching staff. The worst of all the indictments. I ask anyone to tell me what Franks has that Zaire doesn't.
Mobility? He's got it.
Check-down? Pretty sure he can do it.
Dump pass? Pretty sure he can do it.
Long ball? No idea, but pretty sure his arm isn't totally horrible.
If they don't play Zaire, it's an indictment on the coaching staff. The worst of all the indictments. I ask anyone to tell me what Franks has that Zaire doesn't.
Mobility? He's got it.
Check-down? Pretty sure he can do it.
Dump pass? Pretty sure he can do it.
Long ball? No idea, but pretty sure his arm isn't totally horrible.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:48 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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it's an indictment on the coaching staff.
If we have to have a once in a lifetime QB to move this offense correctly its going to be a short regime. Your system should make avg QBs look good, good look great and great look like Heisman winners.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:13 am to dbuchanon
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If we have to have a once in a lifetime QB to move this offense correctly its going to be a short regime. Your system should make avg QBs look good, good look great and great look like Heisman winners.
I'm not even saying that -- Franks isn't even mediocre, though. On a scale of 1 to 10 he's maybe a 3.
We need a guy who can manage the game -- Del Rio is a 5, maybe a 6 on a good day, 7 on a great day (Kentucky last year) but he can get the offense where it needs to be when it needs to be. His vision is better.
For Corral it's:
If we can do this with a guy who's a 3, what can we do with a guy who's an 8?
Putting up 300 yards of offense with a mediocre quarterback is impressive, especially against a defense like A&M who otherwise gave Alabama their toughest game. If we can get Franks to give us these games, a great quarterback makes us virtually unbeatable with this defense.
They're almost all freshmen or sophomores, and they looked way better without Washington.
Good quarterback gives us a chance, great quarterback puts us back on the map. Mediocre quarterback without his playmakers is just a disaster. Cleveland wasn't all there, Toney's out, Scarlett's out, Callaway is out and we still got 400 yards of offense outside of sacks.
That's pretty fricking oustanding, considering.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:17 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If we can get Franks to give us these games, a great quarterback makes us virtually unbeatable with this defense.
Thats the thing though, Mac when he arrived told everyone how QB friendly his offense is. Said his dog could run it.
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They're almost all freshmen or sophomores, and they looked way better without Washington.
They are better without Washington. Yes theyre young and improving each week imo
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:22 am to dbuchanon
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Thats the thing though, Mac when he arrived told everyone how QB friendly his offense is. Said his dog could run it.
He had amazing success at Alabama as a QB coach and then as an HC at CSU (at quarterback). I have no doubt he can coach up a quarterback.
I also have no doubt, and I hate saying this about Franks, because he's a nice kid. A real nice guy, but...
He's a dud.
He has no quarterback instincts at all on the field. This might be a Brantley type of deal where he balls out at practice (they said so before the season started) but the moment he needs to read, react and move he just doesn't seem to have it.
Mond has it, and Mond had a fricking awful first half.
We don't need what he has, and what he has won't be useful if he can't do the absolute basics asked by a QB.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:28 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He's a dud.
Seems to be pretty accurate.. sadly. I had high hopes for franks but his throws today left many scratching their heads. Im sure I will again when i rewatch the game this Tuesday.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:55 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I'm with you Straws. Keep MAC!
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:57 am to HinesvilleThrill
LOL.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 11:09 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He had amazing success at Alabama as a QB coach and then as an HC at CSU (at quarterback). I have no doubt he can coach up a quarterback.
Amazing success at Bama? WTF? Bama's offense was horrendous when Mac was there. Defense and special teams bailed them out game after game. ASK any Bama fan on this board and you would not find ONE that would ever want him back. NOT ONE. I won't even get into CSU because that shite wasn't earth shattering.
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