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New Defensive Coordinator

Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:27 am
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:27 am
Please don't hire Muschamp. Please don't hire Muschamp. Please don't hire Muschamp..
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18907 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 10:48 am to
He Coming

Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:08 am to
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He Coming




And he's bringing Orgeron and Lawing with him on the UF plane.....
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 11:12 am to
Is rather keep Ward. Muschamp would use this job as a stepping stone
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:00 pm to
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Is rather keep Ward. Muschamp would use this job as a stepping stone


I think 90% of all Asst Coaches see their current job as a stepping stone. Most of them want to keep moving up or facing tougher challenges, or make more money.

I would love Muschamp as Asst Head Coach.. That's probably what it's going to take. We would have to fire 1 of the position coaches and then pay him $1+M.-ish. Ward would be the DC in title still and still have a lot of responsibility, but Muschamp would be helping alot with our scheme and just defense overall (as well as coach LB's.)

Then we have to make the call, do we keep the DL recruits we have, IF we fire Deke and hire Brad Lawing?
Posted by Wholelottacock
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
337 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:17 pm to
Literally none of this will happen. Spurrier won't pull the trigger. If I'm wrong I'll eat crow but I won't be. And 50% of this vaunted recruiting class won't be eligible. Meanwhile we'll waste 3/4 years to see if the others develop.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37595 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:44 pm to
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HinesvilleThrill
New Defensive Coordinator
Please don't hire Muschamp. Please don't hire Muschamp. Please don't hire Muschamp..


Not sure if serious ... or citing Br'er Rabbit.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Literally none of this will happen. Spurrier won't pull the trigger. If I'm wrong I'll eat crow but I won't be. And 50% of this vaunted recruiting class won't be eligible. Meanwhile we'll waste 3/4 years to see if the others develop.



Spurrier Today:
He also addressed whether he'd consider hiring Muschamp in the future. Spurrier's defense has been woeful this season and he and Muschamp are good friends.

"I don't have any comment," Spurrier said.


...but he didn't say no.....
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18907 posts
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:39 pm to
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...but he didn't say no..... 


exactely my thought
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 8:51 am to
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Not sure if serious ... or citing Br'er Rabbit.


Oh I'm dead serious. The man is clearly not ready to be a HC in the SEC but he can damn sure coach a defense. Great win on Saturday. We were cheering like hell for y'all in Athens.
Posted by Wholelottacock
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2012
337 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:25 am to
I'll eat that crow with a shite eating grin as if it were my mothers buttermilk fried chicken. But I highly doubt I'd need to, OBC is dear set in his ways. And will not shake it up in order to win an SEC or more.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37595 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Oh I'm dead serious. The man is clearly not ready to be a HC in the SEC but he can damn sure coach a defense. Great win on Saturday. We were cheering like hell for y'all in Athens.


From what I am hearing this morning, and I just got back from down there ... it ain't gonna happen. I dunno, it's going to depend on how we handle these next two games I suppose.

I wish we could do a package deal and get Boom to come and bring Lawing back with him ... everyone would be willing to welcome Lawing back with open arms on this end I was told.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:08 pm to
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From what I am hearing this morning, and I just got back from down there ... it ain't gonna happen. I dunno, it's going to depend on how we handle these next two games I suppose.


What do you mean isn't going to happen, Muschamp, Lawing or both?
Posted by Gamecox20
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:45 pm to
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From what I am hearing this morning, and I just got back from down there ... it ain't gonna happen. I dunno, it's going to depend on how we handle these next two games I suppose.


shite, does that mean we're keeping Ward?
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 6:49 pm to
I honestly don't see any of our D coaches getting fired.. maybe a lower level guy, if anybody, but Spurrier seems disinterested in firing anybody. Maybe it's just a poker face, idk..

Ideally, we work Muschamp in as Asst. HC of the Defense (like EJ prior), keep Ward as DC, and bring back Lawing. That would be superb... but that's highly unlikely.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:15 pm to
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Ideally, we work Muschamp in as Asst. HC of the Defense (like EJ prior), keep Ward as DC, and bring back Lawing. That would be superb... but that's highly unlikely.



Pretty sure Ward wouldn't appreciate it either. He turned down the FSU DC job last year
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Ideally, we work Muschamp in as Asst. HC of the Defense (like EJ prior), keep Ward as DC, and bring back Lawing. That would be superb... but that's highly unlikely.


That would be the grand slam, agreed.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure Ward wouldn't appreciate it either. He turned down the FSU DC job last year


Yes, but he also had a great defense last year. This year he bombed on his recruiting projections and had the worst defense in the SEC FSU wouldn't even accept his call this year.
Posted by OldCockNBalls
Myrtle Beach
Member since Nov 2014
96 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:48 pm to
Remember I said this and see if I'm right.

Ward is staying
Deke is staying
Botkin .........
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted by CayceCock13
Braves / Hornets / Rams Fan
Member since Oct 2012
17543 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 7:32 am to
Tony Morrell reporting on 247 this morning:

quote:

After speaking with multiple sources I feel comfortable reporting Steve Spurrier wants to hire Will Muschamp. Whether or not it all ultimately works out remains to be seen, but I believe he will be presented with an offer from South Carolina. I also don’t think Muschamp coming to South Carolina would necessarily signal the end for Lorenzo Ward. There could be a scenario where Muschamp becomes the assistant head coach and Ward retains his coordinator title and salary. That route would require some concessions on Ward’s part, but it would allow him to keep his family in Columbia and he’d still play an important role on the staff.

If Muschamp is hired, I fully believe he would have an eye on parlaying it into a shot at the head coaching position when Spurrier retires. I don’t think it would come with a coach in waiting tag, but I could see South Carolina athletic director Ray Tanner offering assurances that he would receive serious consideration when the time comes if he does an excellent job with the Gamecock defense. Two sources in the coaching community confirmed Monday night that becoming a head coach again one day is important to Muschamp. One of those coaching sources also has been told Florida has to pay Muschamp the full $6.3 million buyout whether he takes another job next year or not, so he's in a very strong position financially.

Another interesting connection between Spurrier and Muschamp is they share the same agent - Jimmy Sexton - which could expedite things if it reaches the negotiation phase. Muschamp’s record as a defensive coordinator is excellent and adding him to the staff in Columbia would be a home run both from a coaching and recruiting standpoint.
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