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re: Hilinski hits the portal
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:36 am to Lonnie Utah
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:36 am to Lonnie Utah
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If anyone is in doubt about the Hilinski/Bobo dynamic, all you have to do is read what Hilinski wrote that I posed above. The silence on the (Bobo) issue is deafening.
Holy shite you’re right!
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:37 am
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:39 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Holy shite you’re right!
I'm always right young man. I thought you would have figured that out by now.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:41 am to GameCocky88
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He knew that not winning was going to cost his best friend not only his job but likely his last opportunity to be a hc at this level. If you really think bobo didn't do everything that he could to win i just don't know what to tell you
The writing was on the wall for Muschamp before Bobo was even hired. Our own president let it slip that we were looking into firing him a month before Bobo took the job.
The best way for Bobo to have helped Muschamp would have been to actually make a change at QB when it was required. The image of Muschamp's stubbornness and refusal to adapt was widespread knowledge and is what ultimately did him in.
There is no way our staff didn't hear the public outcry against Hill week-after-week from October to November. My personal belief is that Bobo recognized that continuing to play Hill after Muschamp was fired would not bode well for his job at SC with the boosters, so he put in Doty to make it look like he was embracing the future.
Even if that's not the case, it's clear to everyone with eyes and a brain that Hilinski is far more talented than a kid who has been in college for 5 years and didn't accomplish anything except 3 torn ACLs in the damn Mountain West. SC fans and boosters would have been happier if Hilinski played.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:42 am to I Bleed Garnet
What silence am I missing here
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:42 am to Bluefin
Dang Bluefin. You're killing it today. As the Brits say "Spot on."
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:43 am to GameCocky88
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What silence am I missing here
In a post where Hilinski thanks everyone under the sun, you don't see your boyfriends name in there do you?
Are you really that obtuse?
Channeling my inner SOSFan today.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:45 am to Bluefin
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SC fans and boosters would have been happier if Hilinski played
That's the thing my guy, coaches aren't there to make the popular decision. If we're going to say "hey we're going to lose anyway why not play hilinski?" That's fine
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:46 am to Lonnie Utah
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SOSFan
RIPIP
Prayers sent
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:46 am to Lonnie Utah
The only coaches he thanked were muschamp and beamer
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:46 am to Lonnie Utah
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I'm always right young man. I thought you would have figured that out by now.
Lonnie you are the mother fu-cking king
Size Lord Lonnie
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:48 am to GameCocky88
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The only coaches he thanked were muschamp and beamer
And Connor Shaw. He was the QB coach for the last several games.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:54 am to Lonnie Utah
So we're saying that shaw was mentioned bc of being qb coach for a handful of games ryan wasn't playing in rather than the role he was in the vast majority of the time? Super ironic that the ones being the most emotional about all of this are quick to use phrases like "your girlfriend"
Like I said, I like the kid. I wish him well. However, through 2 years of college football in a dog shite team, Ryan hilinski has never actually won the starting role. Think about that
Like I said, I like the kid. I wish him well. However, through 2 years of college football in a dog shite team, Ryan hilinski has never actually won the starting role. Think about that
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:00 am to GameCocky88
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So we're saying that shaw was mentioned bc of being qb coach for a handful of games ryan wasn't playing in rather than the role he was in the vast majority of the time?
Yes
Shaw made an imprint on him.
And it was damn good. As it should be since Shaw is probably the greatest
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:01 am to GameCocky88
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If we're going to say "hey we're going to lose anyway why not play hilinski?" That's fine
That’s my point. The season was lost. There was no reason not to play Hilinski. Instead we now have a remnant of the poor decision-making that cost Muschamp his job still on staff. It’s the reason a lot of fans like me are not particularly excited about the future of our program for the foreseeable future.
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coaches aren't there to make the popular decision
That’s a cop out. When your job is on the line and you’re out of options, making the popular decision is actually exactly what you do.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:04 am to Bluefin
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That’s a cop out. When your job is on the line and you’re out of options, making the popular decision is actually exactly what you do
This is true. Which is why when muschamp got the axe we magically started seeing Luke doty. The question i have is why is it that when ppl complain about not seeing hilinski they only bring up hill? Doty didn't do any better, didn't win a single game, and other than taking more time to get sacked or making a run here or there didn't really perform any better than hill. Why not the" he should've put hilinski in and not doty arguement?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 11:09 am to GameCocky88
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The question i have is why is it that when ppl complain about not seeing hilinski they only bring up hill? Doty didn't do any better, didn't win a single game, and other than taking more time to get sacked or making a run here or there didn't really perform any better than hill. Why not the" he should've put hilinski in and not doty arguement?
Because we’d then be making the exact same argument about Doty that the Hilinski haters made against Hilinski.
Doty was a true freshman who was thrown into a crappy situation. Hilinksi was a true freshman thrown into a crappy situation. I don’t fault either of them for not being world beaters.
Hill, however, had plenty of tape showing he wasn’t that good before he put on a Gamecock jersey. He should have had a shorter leash than he was given.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:25 pm to Bluefin
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I think we should be very hesitant to accept every bit of intel offered by our insiders, particularly over at TBS, as fact.
The rumors that Hilinski lost his competitive edge due to a harsh breakup may have had some merit in the late summer, but it is indisputable that Bobo practiced favoritism towards Hill before he even started competing for the job in the spring.
With Muschamp giving autonomy over the offensive depth chart to Bobo at the beginning of the year in hopes that it meant it could save his job, we have almost certainty that it was Bobo who decided to keep playing Hill, despite the overwhelming evidence by the 5th game that Hill just plain sucks.
Even if we were running a "reduced" version of Bobo's offense to accommodate our shitty WRs, there is no way it was completely over the head of Hilinski. There is nothing complicated about that offense. Furthermore, after the LSU-A&M-Ole Miss stretch and the season was lost, I don't understand how we can still be supportive of a guy who chose not to adapt in hopes of better results to raise morale and recruiting allure. He was even given an out to make a QB change with Kevin Harris being godly.
Spurrier would just throw guys out onto the field to see if they could do better than someone who started over them, and it sometimes worked, but at least he gave it a shot.
The insiders at TBS, who put out a lot of information that is often circulated on this board and Gamecock Twitter, have one goal: to keep Gamecock fans reading their site. To do this, they have to present the decisions of the administration and the coaches as almost infallible to give us all warm fuzzies about our program. If they had outright claimed that Hill blows donkey dick after the LSU game like they should have, they would be jeopardizing their own jobs by using their access to the program to shite on it. They had to frame it as Hilinski just not being up to snuff.
The bottom line in this whole mess is that Hilinksi had no real opportunity to show what he can do at SC. He was hampered by an anemic offense under McClendon, dealt with numerous injuries as a result of poor protection last year, and was screwed out of a chance to play by Bobo bringing in his own QB.
I read all of this hoping for link or a name..... i am disappointed all this amounts to is hearsay and unverified opinion that is being used to slander a coach and a player.
Be better than this.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:30 pm to MrManic52001
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I read all of this hoping for link or a name..... i am disappointed all this amounts to is hearsay and unverified opinion that is being used to slander a coach and a player.
Be better than this.
Huh?
You need me to specifically link you to The Big Spur to read the posts of JC, Tony, or Hale?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
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In a post where Hilinski thanks everyone under the sun, you don't see your boyfriends name in there do you?
Are you really that obtuse?
You don't see many names did he hate them as well?
Conspiracy theories are fun they lack any real evidence but have the beautiful upside of confirming your bias.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:32 pm to Bluefin
Yes. That is how a citation works to support your claims when trying to prove your position.
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