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Fire Kingston NOW

Posted on 3/16/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 4:37 pm
No excuses. Shouldn't even give him a ride home
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95901 posts
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Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
780 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 9:48 pm to
Sc was 2 wins away from the cws last year.. they got a terrible draw vs uf..

I'm not ready for that level of disdain yet. Let's see how this season pans out.

I
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 3/17/24 at 10:12 pm to
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not ready for that level of disdain yet. Let's see how this season pans out.


This is South Carolina baseball where we are one of the elites. Kingston hasn't done squat and has been here plenty of time. Hell Holbrooks recruiting was even better than Kingston. How many years you want to give him to dig the program into a deeper hole.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6783 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:10 am to
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This is South Carolina baseball where we are one of the elites. Kingston hasn't done squat and has been here plenty of time. Hell Holbrooks recruiting was even better than Kingston. How many years you want to give him to dig the program into a deeper hole


I mean...I think I could go either way. If they fire him then please don't just give Monte the job. If they keep him then I do truly believe the hitting can turn around this season. That last game vs OM was a damn good game by us, and the first game was too. Game 2 was good until it got away in the 8th.

Clemson who took two close games against us, just took 2 of 3 vs #6 Duke at Duke. We don't have the big wins yet, and they need to come soon, but we also have competed well despite not playing anywhere close to our best.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6783 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:13 am to
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Hell Holbrooks recruiting was even better than Kingston.


So I don't disagree that Holbrook won more than Kingston...

but this I will disagree with. Holbrook was the type to recruit several of the same type of players and put them out of position in the field. Petry/Messina/Casas are damn good players, better than anything Holbrook recruited (they arent showing it right now I know). I also think our arms are far more dynamic than they were when he was here. The SEC as a whole is just also better now than it was. Back then it was Vandy/UF/Us/OM/Arkansas. LSU was down for several years, as was some of the other SEC teams
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 6:55 pm to
I'll give credit to Kingston for this weekend though it hasn't changed my mind
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6783 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 8:24 am to
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I'll give credit to Kingston for this weekend though it hasn't changed my mind


It just bugs me a little that when we win...fans refuse to give him credit, and even say we won despite Kingston..then when we lose it is completely his fault.


atleast you gave him credit.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 8:25 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 3/30/24 at 12:11 pm to
How much time are the " give Kingston time" fans willing to watch, our once elite program, fall further and further behind. Our play is extremely inconsistent and our recruiting is worse than it's ever been. Hoping it gets better is a joke.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6783 posts
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:59 pm to
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How much time are the " give Kingston time" fans willing to watch, our once elite program, fall further and further behind. Our play is extremely inconsistent and our recruiting is worse than it's ever been. Hoping it gets better is a joke.


I mean...we are 5-4 in conference. On pace for 15-12 going into the last series. Thats in line for a host spot. The SEC is far better now than it was during Tanners time, and winning on the road is hard.

Against top 16 (because that is where Bama is) we are 4-4. (top 5 Clemson 0-2, #3 Vandy 3-0, Bama 1-2). We made a super regional last year, and I still maintain the post season will determine Kingston's future. Tanner used to say, Win your series at home, and don't get swept on the road and you will be fine.


in SEC play from 04 to 09 Tanner in SEC play won 17,16,15,17,15,17 in conference. So it's not like Ray was always winning the SEC in the regular season, and we hosted in those 3 of those 6 years.

I know I am making an extensive case for a guy who has not had a ton of post season success, but I just think it's not productive to be yelling "Fire Kingston" after every loss. I want to see how this team continues to play
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 7:08 am to
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but I just think it's not productive to be yelling "Fire Kingston" after every loss. I want to see how this team continues to play


We aren't talking about a new coach the man has been here 7 years and we haven't sniffed that city in Nebraska once . His recruiting classes are the worst SC has had in decades but let's " see how it plays out".
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6783 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 9:08 am to
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We aren't talking about a new coach the man has been here 7 years and we haven't sniffed that city in Nebraska once . His recruiting classes are the worst SC has had in decades but let's " see how it plays out".


I mean I stand by what I said. It was loud after OM, then we sweep Vandy (winning 6 in a row along the way) and it was quiet. We dropped the first game against Bama and the fire Kingston crowd got real loud. It's hard to demand perfection in baseball. This team is really talented, more talented that any holbrook squad imo. I want to see it play out.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12178 posts
Posted on 4/1/24 at 1:00 pm to
Yet Holbrook had a better record and better recruiting classes and accomplished a super also so if we fired him why isn't Kingston held to the same standards?
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