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Clemson was better boys
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:29 am
It's plain and simple. We can bitch about the play calling, Hurts inability to complete forward passes, fricking Tony Brown, the refs, and anything else it is. But that Clemson team is stout. Watson is a Cam/Tebow talent. Mike Williams looked like Julio out there, Renfrow looked like Brandon Stokely, and Leggett was playing like Jimmy Graham. They were loaded at every position it takes to beat Bama. Take comfort in the fact that through the years Bama has only been beaten by otherworldly quarterback/receiver combos (aside from LSU in 2010,2011).
I'm bummed as frick but I'm not mad. I wanted 5 out of 8 real bad but sometimes you just gotta admit they were better. Truth be told, we stole last year from them.
My one question is this. Is there a fundamental flaw in Saban's defensive scheme against spread attacks? He's the best coach ever but we get absolutely lit up by shotgun spread teams statistically.
I'm bummed as frick but I'm not mad. I wanted 5 out of 8 real bad but sometimes you just gotta admit they were better. Truth be told, we stole last year from them.
My one question is this. Is there a fundamental flaw in Saban's defensive scheme against spread attacks? He's the best coach ever but we get absolutely lit up by shotgun spread teams statistically.
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:31 am to Frac the world
I wouldn't say there is a flaw in our scheme. It is just that Watson was just that good. So was Kelly.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:38 am to Commander Data
They is no defense for a perfect pass. Add that to the fact Clemson receivers were catching 50/50 balls with defenders right there.
There were some push offs that allowed the Clemson receivers to get open.
There were some push offs that allowed the Clemson receivers to get open.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:40 am to Frac the world
Clemson made some remarkable plays too, just enough win. Alabama played great too. It looked like the two best teams in the country out there.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:18 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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Clemson made some remarkable plays too, just enough win. Alabama played great too. It looked like the two best teams in the country out there.
Sucks to be on the losing end, but this all day long. It was an incredible game just like last year.
For two straight seasons the same two teams met for the national title, both games weren't decided until the very end, and the games were split between the two with a combined total points differential of one point.
College football doesn't get any better that that.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:22 am to Frac the world
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My one question is this. Is there a fundamental flaw in Saban's defensive scheme against spread attacks?
I think we had the right formula this year, but we didn't have the depth that we did last year. In the first quarter, and most of the second prior to that long screen pass, we had Watson confused a bit. We pretty much shut 'em down. Once they completed that long screen to Cain, Watson got in a rhythm with a nice medium seam pass to their tight end. And then they started running tempo and it wore us down since we had no depth...
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:24 pm to OldPete
There was no real flaw with the defense.
Being one dimensional on offense is what hurt us
We had 16 offensive drives:
7 drives lasted three plays
3 drives lasted four
3 drives lasted five
1 drive lasted six
1 drive lasted nine
1 drive lasted 1 play to end the first half
We didn't have an offensive drive that lasted more than 6 plays in the second half.
That's asking a lot of a defense. They did enough to win, the offense just kept putting them back on the field.
Being one dimensional on offense is what hurt us
We had 16 offensive drives:
7 drives lasted three plays
3 drives lasted four
3 drives lasted five
1 drive lasted six
1 drive lasted nine
1 drive lasted 1 play to end the first half
We didn't have an offensive drive that lasted more than 6 plays in the second half.
That's asking a lot of a defense. They did enough to win, the offense just kept putting them back on the field.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:26 pm to RolltidePA
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We didn't have an offensive drive that lasted more than 6 plays in the second half. That's asking a lot of a defense. They did enough to win, the offense just kept putting them back on the field.
I kept waiting on that patented Bama drive in the second half where Bama goes 8 minutes running the ball when everyone knows what is coming. It never happened. Hurts could have played a lot better, but that isn't as big of an issue if the o-line didn't get whipped all game. It took incredible individual effort from Bo on the first half td's or the game might not have even been close.
I think if that game is played 10 times, Clemson probably wins 6 or 7
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:04 pm to JustGetItRight
As many games as Bama wins, consecutively even, and with losses being so rare, it is hard for us as fans to accept a loss in any game, much less the NC game.
I compare last night's game to an NFL future rookie showcase game, in a way. Future NFL players all over the field on both teams, parity at so many levels.
Look at this breakdown of past Super Bowl winners in the 16 game regular season, wins & losses vs championships:
Regular Season Record / Number of SB Wins
15-1 / 2
14-2 / 7
13-3 / 7
12-4 / 9
11-5 / 3
10-6 / 2
You honestly could look at last night's game as a microcosm of the NFL, where parity is the key. So much so that a team with 4 regular season losses has won the Super Bowl more often than those with 1,2, or 3 losses. Notice that there are 0 teams with 0 losses even in the picture.
Heads up folks, it was 2 great college teams playing in a great game and one had to lose. Clemson made a couple more plays than Bama. It was their time.
I compare last night's game to an NFL future rookie showcase game, in a way. Future NFL players all over the field on both teams, parity at so many levels.
Look at this breakdown of past Super Bowl winners in the 16 game regular season, wins & losses vs championships:
Regular Season Record / Number of SB Wins
15-1 / 2
14-2 / 7
13-3 / 7
12-4 / 9
11-5 / 3
10-6 / 2
You honestly could look at last night's game as a microcosm of the NFL, where parity is the key. So much so that a team with 4 regular season losses has won the Super Bowl more often than those with 1,2, or 3 losses. Notice that there are 0 teams with 0 losses even in the picture.
Heads up folks, it was 2 great college teams playing in a great game and one had to lose. Clemson made a couple more plays than Bama. It was their time.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:41 pm to OldPete
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Once they completed that long screen to Cain, Watson got in a rhythm
Yep. That was when Clemson woke up. Different game from that point on.
I think Clemson was the better team and would win 6 or 7 times out of 10 if we played. Watson is dynamic and is a brilliant passer. It's clear now that you can't defend that level of play with just the defense. The best defense is keeping him on the sideline.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:49 pm to FairhopeTider
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It's clear now that you can't defend that level of play with just the defense. The best defense is keeping him on the sideline.
When I saw at halftime that Clemson ran 45 plays in the first half, I told my father in law that Bama's D would be gassed in the 4th quarter
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:30 pm to jchamil
In most respects, the Alabama and Clemson teams were pretty equal except for Clemson's obvious advantage at QB.
There were just a few too many execution errors that killed a few of our drives. And, there's always questioning of play calls and adjustments we could've made. As they say, hind sight is 20-20.
All of that said, one thing I just did not get is why we went hurry-up so much. Imo, we should've been using as much clock as possible between snaps, especially after Bo was injured. Such an easy change to make. And if it had been made, we likely would've won.
That loss stings a lot. But, the good news is Bama had a GREAT 14-1 season, even with a true freshman QB. Just 1 play, 1 second, 1 mistake shy of an undeafeated season and National Title. Bama is still THE standard of excellence in CFB and the future is very bright.
There were just a few too many execution errors that killed a few of our drives. And, there's always questioning of play calls and adjustments we could've made. As they say, hind sight is 20-20.
All of that said, one thing I just did not get is why we went hurry-up so much. Imo, we should've been using as much clock as possible between snaps, especially after Bo was injured. Such an easy change to make. And if it had been made, we likely would've won.
That loss stings a lot. But, the good news is Bama had a GREAT 14-1 season, even with a true freshman QB. Just 1 play, 1 second, 1 mistake shy of an undeafeated season and National Title. Bama is still THE standard of excellence in CFB and the future is very bright.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:40 pm to jchamil
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When I saw at halftime that Clemson ran 45 plays in the first half, I told my father in law that Bama's D would be gassed in the 4th quarter
Yep. You could see it coming early in the game, which is what makes it more frustrating because we knew what we had to do on offense yet we couldn't do it.
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