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Things I'm looking forward to next year already

Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:20 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:20 pm
Crockett - That's stating the obvious, but he is a huge plus.

Garrett - For a true freshman...playing MLB...thought he did a solid enough job stepping in and stepping up most of the time.

OL - Another obvious one, but they we stout almost all year and what a turn around. And I believe they all return.

Strong - When he's running north and south, he is good. He gets in trouble when he runs backwards trying to avoid defenders or stringing things out.

Who/what am I missing?
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:55 pm to
Blanton and the WRs with another year of experience could be good.

If Lock matures as a passer he could be really good. His decision making cost Mizzou a couple games this year.

In defense Frazier really finished the season strong.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:59 pm to
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Who/what am I missing?
we are doomed.
we are in for years of rebuilding
it's going to get worse before it get's better
Lock is not good
there is no light at the end of the tunnel except for the train


there is more if I go back another page
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 7:27 am
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
6859 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 11:03 pm to
Lock will be much better.

Sophomore to Junior year transitions are generally huge for QBs.

He'll figure some stuff out. It's like he's an 8 year old that's been playing Madden in HOF mode for two years. Eventually, it just clicks.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:19 am to
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Blanton and the WRs with another year of experience could be good.

If Lock matures as a passer he could be really good. His decision making cost Mizzou a couple games this year.


Yeah, I don't disagree, but those all would require a change from what we've seen in the past. Lock's arm shows so much. I really hope he connects with a QB guru this off season to work on the head as much as the arm.

Yes, Frazier did show well.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:22 am to
Hope you're right because he does throw so effortlessly. I think he needs to learn when to put zip on it and when to put some air under it to let his WR's run under it. If the rest comes together for him, he does have the arm.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15512 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:39 am to
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OL - Another obvious one, but they we stout almost all year and what a turn around. And I believe they all return.


Per Pete Scantlebury on Twitter, this OL allowed the least TFL's of any OL in the nation since 2008

quote:

Who/what am I missing?



I wouldn't have thought I would say this even a week ago, but you're missing Drew Lock and J'Mon Moore.

The jump from Sophomore to Junior for a QB is significant. On top of that, according to Dave Matter, Lock just threw for the 5th most yards in school history (3,399) only behind Chase Daniel (2008, 2007, 2006) and Blaine Gabbert (2009). That's a crazy thought when you think about HOW MANY DROPS the WR's had this year. He could've had hundreds more yards than he did.

As for J'Mon Moore, Dave Matter reported that he just had the 8th most receiving yards in school history (1,012). Again, imagine what his total would've been if not for the drops. If he can be even a little more sure-handed, he could have a huge season next year.

Both guys were incredibly frustrating at times, but the numbers say there's definitely something to be excited about with them.
Posted by IlliniBuck
Member since Apr 2015
189 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:11 am to
The dropped passes have to stop. How many points were left off the scoreboard against Arkansas due to pass drops? How many games were lost over the season due to pass drops?

For the defense, my god, watch for the screen pass!

Posted by JAGsports
Union Star
Member since Dec 2015
948 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:19 am to
Kaleb Prewett at S, Eric Bisel had a strong second half, Johnson and Mason improving there hands, Nate Brown coming back, Frazier back for one more year. Tre Williams, Drew Lock taking the next step, Tucker McCann greatly improving. Terry Becker Jr staying healthy
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:55 am to
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Both guys were incredibly frustrating at times, but the numbers say there's definitely something to be excited about with them.



No question. I think it's the frustrating times part that keeps me from truly "looking forward" to them again. IF they eliminate the frustrating parts of their game, then absolutely.
Posted by wubilli
Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
5517 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 9:57 am to
Didn't Marcus Lucas struggle with drops prior to his senior year.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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13771 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:12 am to
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For the defense, my god, watch for the screen pass!
that happens with a all out pursuit dline scheme. We can get burnt quick over the middle at will.

All the big questions are on D. Do we get a new steller DC? Does Harris stay? What about the line, although Frazier looks good. Bigger questions at LB but looking forward to seeing what Beisel and Garret do. CB may need divine intervention (Wingo?). And issues at safety
Posted by Mizzou59
Mid-MO
Member since May 2016
397 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 10:22 am to
I think I'll just add onto what you already said as well.

Crockett - A gift from God himself. Wastes zero time getting downhill. He finishes all of his runs going forward, unlike Witter (who had improved this season). Once this guy gets a year or two in the weight room, he'll be bulldozing people and knifing through the second level like it's nobody's business.

Garrett - This kid is simply tough as nails. Even though it was a bit cheap, watching him knock that Arky OL's teeth out was pretty cool. He gets a little too antsy in his run fits (Williams gashed us cutting back), but that's probably because he's a true freshman with nerves running and lots of adrenaline. Give him a year to settle into things and get comfortable, and he'll be the next Kentrell Brothers by his senior year (mark my words!).

OL - I want to pick out a few guys, but hell. Every guy on that OL played fantastic this season. Elarbee gets them motivated so well. Sam Bailey (the Big Show's doppleganger) and Kevin Pendleton are just old-school badasses that have a great mean streak. I was very impressed by the aggressive nature shown from Dubinski and Ploudre, too. I still can't believe that I saw Dubinski flatten Kirkland Jr. from UT like he did on Crockett's big run in the 3rd quarter. Paul Adams and Tyler Powell are simply moving walls.

Nate Strong - I was high on this guy all year, but I'm not going to lie, I've been disappointed in his performance in the last two games. Dittoing what you said, he is better running north and south than east and west. He seemed scared of contact on a few plays vs. Arky, which worries me a little bit. But if he gets an offseason under his belt, watch out. I would not want to be in front of an angry 220 pound man with his speed.

Now here's some of what you're missing:

Drew Lock - He's been stupid at times this season, but I'll be drinking the Lock kool aid now just like I have for the past two seasons. He won the Arkansas game for us. He kept us in the game with a solid WVU team on the road. His arm is one of the best I've seen in a Mizzou uniform ever. He does have some imperfections, but I think they will grow as he matures as a player and a young man.

Mason - Holy hell. I did not see this kid coming. He had some frustrating drops this year, but I still have lots of hope for the guy. Him and Garrett are the biggest steals of the 2016 class. He can get separation from just about anybody. T.J. Moe doesn't just compare anybody to J-Mac, either.

Marcell Frazier - I was very disappointed in his lack of production last year and half of this year. But I think that getting benched in favor of Jordan Harold and Spencer Williams gave him a wake up call. He's got the size, and speed to be an all-SEC talent, but now he's got the motor to go along with it, too.

Blanton - The best receiving TE we've got. I don't know about his blocking skills, but he's a red zone nightmare for defenses

Perkins - Consistent tackler for a RSFR. He's only going to get better at coverage skills, but you have to have a good run-stopping safety to compete in the SEC in my opinion.

Beisel - He's taking advantage of his opportunity. If I'm Odom, I would have a hard time not starting him next year.

I'm pretty optimistic about the future, if you haven't noticed. Let's hope that TBJ comes back the same and that J'Mon Moore grows up a little bit, and we just might have a decent 'ball team in 2017

Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
1285 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:30 am to
Adding super burner Jeff Thomas to an already loaded offense would be fun.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:22 pm to
Don't forget Terez Hall at one of the linebacker positions a guy that's not scared to lay the lumber.

A player that everybody tends to forget is wr R. Floyd who has made some nice runs after the catch in limited duty. They need to give Wingo some clock.

If Harris leaves I see Nate Howard and Tre Williams getting some time with Frazier next year.

We need to hit the JUCO circuit and find some defensive tackles that can clog up the middle to go along with Beckner if he can stay healthy. Our tackles were nonexistent this year.

Zanders need to look at running back next year to get some clock and display some of his quickness. If Strong would have gotten hurt against Arky we would have only had Ryan Williams left at rb.

We need some linebackers next year with some girth, speed to pursue and cover and stay in their gaps. I like Garret and Biesel, but only at middle linbacker.

We need a darn near total rehaul in the secondary.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111499 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:22 pm to
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Perkins - Consistent tackler for a RSFR. He's only going to get better at coverage skills, but you have to have a good run-stopping safety to compete in the SEC in my opinion.


I like him.

I'm anxious to see if the Georgia kids - Brown, Hall - can give us a full year.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4040 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:34 pm to
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The jump from Sophomore to Junior for a QB is significant


To be fair that is usually moving from the 1st year starting to the 2nd. Lock has already had this.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5362 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:37 pm to
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We need a darn near total rehaul in the secondary.


Prewett can tackle, at least he did at KSU, so he and Perkins should be a step up at the safeties. Maybe there is a JUCO CB that can shut down half the field available. It's probably too late to switch Wingo to CB. 1 CB with above average cover skills and Prewett at safety would go a long way in the secondary.
Posted by Zou brownmajic
Member since Sep 2013
3470 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:43 pm to
What the heck happened to Tavon Ross who a lot of us had high hopes for? I heard that he's been back from his injury.
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