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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:19 pm
QB- C- hasn't been atrocious but not good either. BMAC has been underwhelming, granted a TrFr. Perry continues to hold onto the ball and take sacks instead of throwing it away as well as consistently under throwing or throwing behind receivers.
RB- B- Play calling and OL have cuffed these guys.
TE/WR- B Hurst, Crosby and August have been consistent receiving blocking could use work. WRs are young but a ton of drops.
OL- F I don't think I need to elaborate on this one.
DL- C+ Gotten a solid pass rush via English and TFLs this season
LB- C+ way too many missed tackles here early on. Coming into their own in that regard. Still cannot fill the gaps to stop the run.
S- B Haven't seen too many blown coverages over top.
CB- A these guys are keeping the play in front of them and rarely give up the big play.
Special Teams- Kicking- B- TAMU really hurt this geade.
Special Teams- Coverage- B haven't been super but haven't been terrible as in the past.
Coaching- Overall- C- nothing amazing
Coaching- Offense- F Crappy play call variance and personell coupled with atrocious oline play. PPG is absolute shite as well
Coaching- Defense- B+ they have the guys in position to make plays and make great halftime adjustments.
RB- B- Play calling and OL have cuffed these guys.
TE/WR- B Hurst, Crosby and August have been consistent receiving blocking could use work. WRs are young but a ton of drops.
OL- F I don't think I need to elaborate on this one.
DL- C+ Gotten a solid pass rush via English and TFLs this season
LB- C+ way too many missed tackles here early on. Coming into their own in that regard. Still cannot fill the gaps to stop the run.
S- B Haven't seen too many blown coverages over top.
CB- A these guys are keeping the play in front of them and rarely give up the big play.
Special Teams- Kicking- B- TAMU really hurt this geade.
Special Teams- Coverage- B haven't been super but haven't been terrible as in the past.
Coaching- Overall- C- nothing amazing
Coaching- Offense- F Crappy play call variance and personell coupled with atrocious oline play. PPG is absolute shite as well
Coaching- Defense- B+ they have the guys in position to make plays and make great halftime adjustments.
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:08 pm to mikeboss550
I was going to grade the units, but I got too depressed too quickly.
I also think you should add a Special Teams - Returns. That grade would be an F. From almost a safety at Vanderbilt to not having a single person who can field a punt, it's shockingly bad outside of one really good return by Turner.
I also think you should add a Special Teams - Returns. That grade would be an F. From almost a safety at Vanderbilt to not having a single person who can field a punt, it's shockingly bad outside of one really good return by Turner.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/11/16 at 4:41 pm to mikeboss550
Can't really argue with any of it ... I might go easier on the offensive play calling though. I think the play calling has been okay but execution has been atrocious at times. You touched on that - I think Roper is going to be fine once the playmakers start making plays.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 5:22 pm to scrooster
I was talking more about consistent calls of Turner up the middle and Dowdle on the edge when it should be called exactly the opposite. Pass plays have receivers open just no time for qbs to see it or they under throw them.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:50 pm to mikeboss550
I'd also credit the DBs for producing a respectable amount of TOs for us given the circumstances
Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:04 pm to mikeboss550
I missed Sunday because we had to run to the coast to check on things ... just got around to watching the game this afternoon. You're right now that you mention it. I wonder if that was by design or just the way it played-out based on the defense that presented ... I dunno.
FWIW mUSChamp is going nuts in the staff meetings. I think he may be close to losing his cool. Heard he stressed the word "pathetic" in a demonstrative fashion and no one was spared except the DBs.
The whole Dillman covering for Elliott thing is not cool and becoming less so by the day ... no S&C coach should have this much influence over a HC. I can imagine it is going to become a problem.
FWIW mUSChamp is going nuts in the staff meetings. I think he may be close to losing his cool. Heard he stressed the word "pathetic" in a demonstrative fashion and no one was spared except the DBs.
The whole Dillman covering for Elliott thing is not cool and becoming less so by the day ... no S&C coach should have this much influence over a HC. I can imagine it is going to become a problem.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:15 pm to theGarnetWay
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I'd also credit the DBs for producing a respectable amount of TOs for us given the circumstances
I'd also credit them with having a lot to do with the sacks from English. Most of our sacks this year haven't been the "beat the guy of the line" type. They've mainly been the "you can only block me without holding for so long" type. Coverage has a good deal to do with that.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:25 pm to GameCocky88
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ost of our sacks this year haven't been the "beat the guy of the line" type.
Oh how I miss the Clowney, Ingram, Quarles, Taylor line.
But yeah, English is having a career year which is kind of sad.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:04 pm to mikeboss550
quote:you're being too kind to the OL and offense across the board.
Coaching- Offense- F Crappy play call variance and personell coupled with atrocious oline play. PPG is absolute shite as well
87 points overall and 66 in the 8 SEC games is what 2016 USC has to beat in order to be better than 1999. the good news is 2016 USC is on pace to do so almost doubling up the 1999 Gamecocks at 14.0 ppg to 7.9 ppg 
it's been interesting watching the collective defense vs the 2015 edition. through 5 of 8 conference games there's some positive trending overall.
Gamecock defense 2016 v 2015 - SEC games only
Scoring - 21.2 (5) v 30.4 (14)
Total D - 371 (6) v 448 (14)
Rush D - 243 (11) v 224 (13)
Pass D - 128 (2) v 224 (9)
Opp 1st Dn - 20.4 (8) v 23.3 (14)
Red Zone D
Attempts - 19 (5 games) v 37 (8 games)
TD - 10 (5 games) v 25 (8 games)
FG - 5 (5 games) v 6 (8 games)
In conference games, the Gamecock D has returned to comparable numbers in yards allowed and points allowed to some of the better defenses since 2010.
2010 - 378 / 26.1
2011 - 268 / 16.9
2012 - 302 / 21.1
2013 - 346 / 22.3
2014 - 458 / 36.8
2015 - 445 / 30.4
2016 - 371 / 21.2
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:11 pm to 1801
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1801
Excellent stats sir.
Have an upvote. Was wondering how we were trending but haven't had a chance to get around to researching myself.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:22 pm to 1801
We're going to have a helluva defense under mUSChamp ... (why does my autocorrect keep doing that with his name dammit), but ... should we worry about the offense?
I dunno why, but I have faith in Roper - provided Elliott gets canned. We deserve a better OLine coach - the players, the program, the fans.
I dunno why, but I have faith in Roper - provided Elliott gets canned. We deserve a better OLine coach - the players, the program, the fans.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:05 pm to scrooster
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We're going to have a helluva defense under mUSChamp ...
they haven't nailed down the Rush D quite yet but it's hard to find great fault with anything the 2016 defense has done so far compared to the past 2 seasons.
I'm not sure what to make of our offense with regards to this staff just yet. I share your perspective on our current OL situation.
It may be a bit early to weigh in Roper's future success through 6 games with the multiple challenges USC's offense faces, lack of SEC caliber players in the trenches being the most noticeable. I hope by this time next season a lot of things work themselves out and the offense shows drastic improvement in all aspects. otherwise, what we see now may be all it's gonna be in a Muschamp program.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 6:29 am to scrooster
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(why does my autocorrect keep doing that with his name dammit),
Thank god (or whatever mythical being) that doesn't happen to me.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 8:58 am to 1801
In regards to the rush D, we have to undo a lot of the horrible methods that have been taught in previous years too. Bad habits are hard to break and the fact we have seen this much improvement so far this year speaks volumes to me of our defensive coaching staff.
I too have a faith in a Roper designed offense, provided he has the horses to get the job done. That starts up front by canning Elliot this year and finding an OL coach who can git 'r dunnn.. I believe we have the talent on the line to do so (still hoping we can get Moore back), they just have to be coached up.
When Deebo is healthy, he shines. Some of those grabs he made this past week take immense concentration and he made them with ease. Edwards is going to be a star and Hurst will be the best TE in the league next year. Combine that with Dreek Davis who was showing signs and some of our incoming recruits, I believe our offensive weapons will be more than sufficient provided our OL play improves and we get a QB who don't turn into a deer in the headlights and/or throws 3 foot in either direction of the receiver
I too have a faith in a Roper designed offense, provided he has the horses to get the job done. That starts up front by canning Elliot this year and finding an OL coach who can git 'r dunnn.. I believe we have the talent on the line to do so (still hoping we can get Moore back), they just have to be coached up.
When Deebo is healthy, he shines. Some of those grabs he made this past week take immense concentration and he made them with ease. Edwards is going to be a star and Hurst will be the best TE in the league next year. Combine that with Dreek Davis who was showing signs and some of our incoming recruits, I believe our offensive weapons will be more than sufficient provided our OL play improves and we get a QB who don't turn into a deer in the headlights and/or throws 3 foot in either direction of the receiver
Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:20 am to scrooster
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should we worry about the offense?
I think if we had better OL/QB play then the offense would seem more explosive. After 6 games you can see we have weapons. Dowdle looks to be really good and AJ/Williams have played respectable. Deebo, Edwards & Davis when healthy have all looked pretty damn good for us this year. Crosby & Hurst both look like pretty good TE's when catching the football, they obviously need work on blocking though.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 9:24 am to scrooster
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The whole Dillman covering for Elliott thing is not cool and becoming less so by the day ... no S&C coach should have this much influence over a HC. I can imagine it is going to become a problem.
Can you elaborate here? I'm confused. You saying Dillman sticks up for Elliott and is shouldering the blame for his pathetic OL? Why does Dillman have influence over Muschamp?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 10:47 am to CockyTime
He's saying Dillman is old buddies with Elliot from long ago and Dillman comes to Elliot's defense a lot. Which he shouldn't really be doing considering his main objective is just making sure our guys are getting stronger, staying in shape, and avoiding injury.
His being friends and defending Elliot IMO was a key for Muschamp at first since the the thought was it would help create better chemistry in the coaching staff. But now that we know what we are dealing with in Elliot, Dillman rushing to the defense of Elliot is just delaying the inevitable, much to the frustration of the fanbase.
His being friends and defending Elliot IMO was a key for Muschamp at first since the the thought was it would help create better chemistry in the coaching staff. But now that we know what we are dealing with in Elliot, Dillman rushing to the defense of Elliot is just delaying the inevitable, much to the frustration of the fanbase.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:13 am to mikeboss550
Our defense has done a hell of rebound since last year, they're a lot better than they were. They aren't great yet, but the progress is there. I think Darius English is near the top of the conference for Sacks...finally. Offense is complete hot garbage though. OL isn't doing anything to help and everything else about the Off is suffering. We have a walk on QB and a true FR QB, so our situation with that isn't good, and won't be better until next year. We might as well give Bentley a look, however, I'll understand if they want to RS him since the most we can hope for now is some low tier bowl.
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