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New episode of Riot Watch Baltimore about to start

Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:53 pm
The driver in the Freddy Gray case was acquitted on all counts.

If they couldn't convict the driver, they're not going to convict anyone. Wonder if the overreaching prosecutor is happy now?
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:54 pm to
Damn white people get away with murder.......oh wait......nevermind
Posted by Stacked
Member since Apr 2012
5675 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 12:59 pm to
They have more than enough reason to take this to the streets. If you can't trust the government to protect you or law enforcement to be held accountable, then they've made the bed for the riots and they better be ready to sleep in them.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 1:16 pm to
Overreaching? How so? Perhaps going for murder was a bit much, and we certainly didn't see all of the evidence, but a guy's neck was snapped while riding in the back of a paddy wagon while in custody of a police force that has a known history of using "rough rides." It's troubling nobody will be held criminally accountable for his death. And if no crime was committed, perhaps there's a problem with the laws as they're written.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:17 pm to
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Overreaching? How so? Perhaps going for murder was a bit much, and we certainly didn't see all of the evidence, but a guy's neck was snapped while riding in the back of a paddy wagon while in custody of a police force that has a known history of using "rough rides." It's troubling nobody will be held criminally accountable for his death. And if no crime was committed, perhaps there's a problem with the laws as they're written.


She charged everyone that touched the case with something and most of them were charged with something death-related (murder or manslaughter).

One of the bike officers was charged with manslaughter and two others with assault despite being nowhere near Gray when his fatal injury occurred. Likewise, two other officers were charged with manslaughter despite never encountering Gray until after he'd been injured.

That's overcharging. Should the department be sued for their actions and lose? Yes. Should the officers get fired? Most of them, yes. Did they play any significant role in his death? No, not one bit.

Now the driver's a different matter. I fully expected a manslaughter conviction there and there's no doubt that charges were warranted.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:52 pm to
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Wonder if the overreaching prosecutor is happy now?

Yeah if they'd just start giving these fools manslaughter instead of murder they might actually get a conviction. No way should they not all at least be suspended or something.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 2:53 pm to
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New episode of Riot Watch Baltimore about to start


Good thing people have guns to protect themselves.
Posted by Mansa Musa
Member since Feb 2016
197 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Damn white people get away with murder.......oh wait......nevermind

Africans, Indians, nuclear bombs, yeah pretty much.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:30 pm to
Roger that. I thought you were talking about this case specifically and not the entire incident. I wasn't aware she had charged so many of the officers, though I do think there was wanton negligence by the entire police department.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14557 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:43 pm to
Need a police scanner link

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Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 4:49 pm to
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I do think there was wanton negligence by the entire police department.


There was a TON of civil liability for sure.

The city settled with the family for about 6.5 million just a few months after his death. No way in the world they wanted to get that case in front of a jury.

I'm surprised the driver beat every charge. This is the third of the 6 officers to face trial. Thus far there's been one hung jury and two complete acquittals in bench trials. The prosecution can't even convict on the minor misconduct charges.

Contrary to how reports make it sound, there must be some really, really weak evidence for the prosecution to flop that badly.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 6:42 pm to
I think the evidence is more just circumstantial, this easier to inject doubt. I don't think any of the officers had any intent to kill him, but I definitely think they all had little regard for his safety and well being, and that disregard contributed to his death.

Cops are just given more leeway, both with the way laws are written and public sentiment. And that can be a good thing and a bad thing. They should be given more leeway in certain circumstances, but too often they take advantage of that leeway, then circle the wagons to protect their own when that leeway is questioned.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10340 posts
Posted on 6/23/16 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

thought you were talking about this case specifically and not the entire incident. I wasn't aware she had charged so many of the officers, though I do think there was wanton negligence by the entire police department.

Wait a minute: You know enough about the case to know that the entire police department is guilty of negligence...but you didn't know enough about the case to know what charges were filed, who they were filed against, and what evidence was presented against the accused?

OK. Carry on with your ignorance.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/24/16 at 7:33 am to
I knew charges were filed against the driver and a couple of the arresting officers. I didn't know charges were filed against almost every cop that came in contact with Gray, as the OP stated happened. I only closely followed it in the week or two after it happened, so no problem admitting I am ignorant on what has happened since then. My opinion on the police department's culpability is based on their initial handling and their documented pattern of "rough rides."
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