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Gamecock fans, a question about your D.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:48 am
What has caused the drop off from your 11 win seasons? Was it Johnson and Lawing leaving? I can see a talent difference but is that the major reason for it?
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:54 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I believe it is because the in-state high school talent has been down for two or three years now. There just haven't been great defensive, or offensive players for that matter, like there were four or five years ago. We haven't been able to pick up the slack out of state.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:56 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I can think of 7 reasons...
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:57 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I actually felt bad for Skai Moore on Saturday. He's really good, plays really hard, and his teammates let him down over and over again.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:58 am to Crowknowsbest
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I actually felt bad for Skai Moore on Saturday. He's really good, plays really hard, and his teammates let him down over and over again.
Yeah, he was impressive for sure.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:59 am to Cockeee Don
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I believe it is because the in-state high school talent has been down for two or three years now. There just haven't been great defensive, or offensive players for that matter, like there were four or five years ago. We haven't been able to pick up the slack out of state.
So the high school level talent is on a down tick? That sounds like a possibility.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:00 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Couple that with Spurrier's 2-3 years comment, with an already lazy recruiting approach, and any in-state talent we did have went elsewhere. JMO
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:01 am to Crowknowsbest
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I actually felt bad for Skai Moore on Saturday. He's really good, plays really hard, and his teammates let him down over and over again.
Don't feel bad for him. He fixin' to get paid next year.
On a somewhat related side note, I couldn't believe that up 25 points in the 3rd Richt STILL had Chubb in the game, esp when things started getting chippy. He was just ASKING for a "freak" injury (ie someone targeting him....) That was NOT a smart move IMHO.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:04 am to Crowknowsbest
Skai Moore and Jonathan Walton played hard, and Dante Sawyer has showed a little bit, but everyone else was BAD.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:04 am to Cockeee Don
There is clearly a coaching issue.
South Carolina's players aren't as good as the 3 year 11 win period, but the results on defense are just RIDICULOUSLY bad.
They have the worst yards per play allowed in the SEC- 7.29 yards allowed per play, which is embarrassingly (a coach should resign level) bad.
Only 4 teams in all of CFB are allowing more yards per play:
Kansas - 7.38
SMU - 8.13
Idaho - 8.68
UTEP - 9.07
South Carolina's players aren't as good as the 3 year 11 win period, but the results on defense are just RIDICULOUSLY bad.
They have the worst yards per play allowed in the SEC- 7.29 yards allowed per play, which is embarrassingly (a coach should resign level) bad.
Only 4 teams in all of CFB are allowing more yards per play:
Kansas - 7.38
SMU - 8.13
Idaho - 8.68
UTEP - 9.07
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:07 am to slayerxing
Well, was Ellis just that much better or has the talent dropped that much?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:17 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Well, was Ellis just that much better or has the talent dropped that much?
Ellis was never as good as people wanted to believe, see what he did at Southern Miss and then Auburn, but he had incredible talent while he was here. Give him credit for being the main recruiter on several of those players though. But you or I could have coached Clowney, Gilmore, Ingram, Quarles, Taylor, Robertson, Holloman, Allen, etc. to a top 20 defense. The talent is light years behind where we were just a couple years ago.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:18 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I think it's just a mix of Ellis being better and Ward being that much awful. Coupled with a talent dropoff, and in the case of last year, trying a new defensive scheme then ditching it after 2-3 games...Here you go.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:19 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Ellis was a great fit for whatever reason. Lawing also always had our line playing to its potential and I think losing him hurt us the most. It wasn't just Clowney by any stretch of the imagination. We're still getting solid DL recruits but aren't seeing the same results.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:21 am to CNB
Perfect storm of shitty things have led to this.
We had a good run of instate talent for awhile. Hell, 3 of our best players in Clowney, Gilmore, and Holloman all came from the same high school.
We had a good run of instate talent for awhile. Hell, 3 of our best players in Clowney, Gilmore, and Holloman all came from the same high school.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:23 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I just think the coaching has been really really bad. That, combined with the players being not as good.
I still think with decent coaching the USCe defense could be at least just a normal level of suck and not a record setting level of suck.
I still think with decent coaching the USCe defense could be at least just a normal level of suck and not a record setting level of suck.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:26 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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the major reason for it?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:32 am to CNB
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I think it's just a mix of Ellis being better and Ward being that much awful. Coupled with a talent dropoff, and in the case of last year, trying a new defensive scheme then ditching it after 2-3 games...Here you go.
Any chance we'll see improvement throughout the year? I know that we'll see some improvement from year one to year two.
Also, how has BAW been playing?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:58 am to slayerxing
There is clearly a coaching issue.
South Carolina's players aren't as good as the 3 year 11 win period, but the results on defense are just RIDICULOUSLY bad.
They have the worst yards per play allowed in the
I don't think it's quite as bad as the numbers indicate. Carolina has played three power-five teams, unlike 95% of everybody else. That can skew those numbers some, not to say that we are good by any means, though.
South Carolina's players aren't as good as the 3 year 11 win period, but the results on defense are just RIDICULOUSLY bad.
They have the worst yards per play allowed in the
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SEC- 7.29 yards allowed per play, which is embarrassingly (a coach should resign level) bad.
Only 4 teams in all of CFB are allowing more yards per play:
Kansas - 7.38
SMU - 8.13
Idaho - 8.68
UTEP - 9.07
I don't think it's quite as bad as the numbers indicate. Carolina has played three power-five teams, unlike 95% of everybody else. That can skew those numbers some, not to say that we are good by any means, though.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 9:59 am
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