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CCA to vote on Early Signing Period.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:58 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:58 am
CCA to vote on Early Signing Period.
The SEC is the only conference that's against it. Personally, I think it's a good thing. Discuss.
The SEC is the only conference that's against it. Personally, I think it's a good thing. Discuss.
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:03 am to Lonnie Utah
How are we going to steal recruits from LSU and Auburn at the last second if this happens.. 
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:10 am to GIbson05
it'll actually give you two last seconds to steal recruits. Right before early signing, then again before regular signing.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:11 am to Lonnie Utah
I think it's a great way to lock kids in to rushed decisions with incomplete information. It's great for the 5*, terrible for the 3*.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:15 am to Crowknowsbest
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I think it's a great way to lock kids in to rushed decisions with incomplete information. It's great for the 5*, terrible for the 3*.
This signing period would be in the middle December. If you know at that point, you know. For those type of kids, how is 2.5 months going to make any difference at that point? All this does is takes the drama out for those kids. If you don't know by then, don't sign and wait until Feb.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:18 am to Lonnie Utah
Coaching changes, new offers, etc. A lot of stuff changes around college football programs in those two months.
A very small % of prospects actually have the leverage to wait. For most, it'll be "sign early, or else."
A very small % of prospects actually have the leverage to wait. For most, it'll be "sign early, or else."
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:20 am to Crowknowsbest
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Coaching changes, new offers, etc. A lot of stuff changes around college football programs in those two months.
Easy solution. Don't commit to a coach, commit to a SCHOOL.
Besides, that crap goes on any way. Coaches leaving after the February signing period. So in my mind, that's a lame excuse not to have it.
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There were nearly 20 coaching changes announced after the ink was dry on national letters of intent, including the retirement of longtime TCU defensive coordinator Dick Bumpas.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:21 am to Lonnie Utah
They need to have it so that if a kid commits early , but there is any coaching turnover at all, they should be allowed to opt out.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:24 am to Lonnie Utah
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Easy solution. Don't commit to a coach, commit to a SCHOOL.
Completely unrealistic. Assistant coaches are professional salesmen who intentionally make their relationship with the prospect the deciding factor. It increases their value to the schools come contract time or for new opportunities. They also have a huge impact on the day to day lives of college football players, usually even more than head coaches.
So that's out. What about the new offer part? Every year there are dozens of prospects who find better opportunities in January and February. Are they just SOL?
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:29 am to Crowknowsbest
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So that's out. What about the new offer part. Every year their are dozens of prospects who find better opportunities in January and February. Are they just SOL?
Look, nobody's FORCING kids to sign in December if this pans out. It's just an opportunity for those that are solid with their decisions to get the drama out of the way early. If a kid is unsure in anyway, shape or form, they can, and should wait until February.
You said, it's a bad thing for 3*s? Well, what about the 3* that gets their offer bumped/trumped by a 5* who comes in at the last min? (A coach down in Tuscaloosa is famous for doing that.) It's a great way for those type of kids to be assured they aren't going to have to hunt for a spot on NSD when all of the sudden their offer in no longer committable because of unexpected kids coming on board.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:31 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:34 am to Lonnie Utah
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Look, nobody's FORCING kids to sign in December if this pans out.
College coaches will. It's completely naive to think otherwise.
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You said, it's a bad thing for 3*s? Well, what about the 3* that gets their offer bumped/trumped by a 5* who comes in at the last min? A coach down in Tuscaloosa is famous for doing that. It's a great way for those type of kids to be assured they aren't going to have to hunt for a spot on NSD when all of the sudden their offer in no longer committable because of unexpected kids coming on board.
This is terrible when it happens, but it happens a lot less frequently than kids trading up. Coaches would just do it in December as opposed to January anyway.
Most college coaches are assholes with a lot of leverage. The early signing day just gives them another pressure point.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:45 am to Lonnie Utah
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Easy solution. Don't commit to a coach, commit to a SCHOOL.
That's not realistic. These kids choose programs based on the coaching staff and the likelihood they can help them get to their next goal.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:50 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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That's not realistic. These kids choose programs based on the coaching staff and the likelihood they can help them get to their next goal.
Caveat emptor.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:57 am to Lonnie Utah
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Easy solution. Don't commit to a coach, commit to a SCHOOL.
always has and always will be a lame as hell excuse to be able to frick kids over.
you do realize a large percentage of regular people also chooses universities based off of specific teachers and programs don't you?
should every kid with an academic scholarship be trapped at a school w/transfer restrictions if that teacher or program gets shut down?
if I go to learn under a teacher and they leave should I be forced to sit out of that field of study for a year if I transfer?
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 11:21 am to Dr RC
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always has and always will be a lame as hell excuse to be able to frick kids over.
I get where this sentiment comes from, because the coaches are the guys the recruits and SA's are going to interact with. But it's also a case of Caveat emptor, where the recruit needs to do their due diligence and be ready for unexpected changes. One would likely if you know if your coach was endangered of getting fired. If they got a new job offer at a new school, that's a little less predictable.
Which is why I said in the first place, you shouldn't commit to a COACH. You should commit to a SCHOOL. Coaches can leave at any time. Go to the school where you can see yourself getting a degree, because even at the D1 level and SEC, only a very small percentage of players get a shot at the next level.
Ironically, this is THE most impactful thing happening in College football right now and nobody wants to talk about it.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:06 pm to Lonnie Utah
No it is not a buyer beware issue.
Every other kid that gets an academic scholarship is freely allowed to transfer w/o restrictions if the teacher they went to that school leaves or academic program is not what they thought it would be. They are not forced to sit out of their chosen academic field if they wish to transfer. They are not restricted on what schools they can transfer to.
Athletes are screwed out of that while coaches can blatantly lie to trick them into signing and freely leave whenever they want. This will only make things worse for the kids.
Every other kid that gets an academic scholarship is freely allowed to transfer w/o restrictions if the teacher they went to that school leaves or academic program is not what they thought it would be. They are not forced to sit out of their chosen academic field if they wish to transfer. They are not restricted on what schools they can transfer to.
Athletes are screwed out of that while coaches can blatantly lie to trick them into signing and freely leave whenever they want. This will only make things worse for the kids.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/16/15 at 5:50 pm to Lonnie Utah
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You said, it's a bad thing for 3*s? Well, what about the 3* that gets their offer bumped/trumped by a 5* who comes in at the last min? (A coach down in Tuscaloosa is famous for doing that.)
Do you realize that Saban is one of the few SEC coaches in favor of the rule? 
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:08 pm to Lonnie Utah
Voted to reject the motion. No early Signing period this year.
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