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Does the SEC only get 1 National Seed this year
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:14 pm
The SEC is the best conference, do we only get one national seed.
Florida is a given.
Vandy is out, by going 1-2 in SECT and finishing 6th in conference
South Carolina could go 0-2 in SECT and that would knock them out. Should the beat Florida today, there is life.
Ole Miss is sitting at 1-1 in the SECT. If the finish 1-2 in tournament play, would that be enough.
If LSU won it all I could see them getting one, but South Carolina and Ole Miss would need to eliminated by tomorrow to make that happen.
Would be a travesty for only 1 SEC team to get a national seed.
Florida is a given.
Vandy is out, by going 1-2 in SECT and finishing 6th in conference
South Carolina could go 0-2 in SECT and that would knock them out. Should the beat Florida today, there is life.
Ole Miss is sitting at 1-1 in the SECT. If the finish 1-2 in tournament play, would that be enough.
If LSU won it all I could see them getting one, but South Carolina and Ole Miss would need to eliminated by tomorrow to make that happen.
Would be a travesty for only 1 SEC team to get a national seed.
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Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:15 pm to DarthRebel
No national seed for LSU even with a tournament title in my opinion.
I think Ole Miss could squeak into national seed if they make it to finals.
I think Ole Miss could squeak into national seed if they make it to finals.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:19 pm to DarthRebel
I think its between LSU and USC for the 2nd national seed
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:20 pm to DarthRebel
its certainly a possibility.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:21 pm to DarthRebel
I just finished posting about this in the SCAR forum.
The ACC is so top heavy it's ridiculous. Their level of competition, top to bottom, is nowhere near what the SEC's is honestly.
Yet the ACC will benefit, with three national seeds, and flop in the postseason once again, as usual.
The system needs to be revamped.
The SEC deserves three spots this year. We can only hope. UF is probably a lock. LSU, Ole Miss, SCAR all have some work to do. Vandy is out of the running even after they looked so good coming into the last series of the season.
The ACC is so top heavy it's ridiculous. Their level of competition, top to bottom, is nowhere near what the SEC's is honestly.
Yet the ACC will benefit, with three national seeds, and flop in the postseason once again, as usual.
The system needs to be revamped.
The SEC deserves three spots this year. We can only hope. UF is probably a lock. LSU, Ole Miss, SCAR all have some work to do. Vandy is out of the running even after they looked so good coming into the last series of the season.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:21 pm to nicholastiger
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I think Ole Miss could squeak into national seed if they make it to finals
I think we could sneak in with one more win tomorrow especially if Florida knocks out USCe today.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:26 pm to Rebels_to_Cover
I think the whole baseball system needs a revamp especially with SOS and the RPI which is a lot different in baseball. Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids. Baseball is a more season long type of sport compared to basketball. So if ULL doesn't win the tourney and the Sun Belt gets 2 teams in at the expense of other more worthy teams, how is that fair? Only one sun belt team deserves to get in.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:27 pm to nicholastiger
What sport are we talking about in this thread?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:30 pm to DarthRebel
I like our chances. Especially if we can beat UF today.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:31 pm to Tennessee Jed
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What sport are we talking about in this thread?
Buttchugging. UT is a perennial top seed.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:42 pm to nicholastiger
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Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids.
That's a long time honored tradition in the NCAA that is never going to change. I agree, it should change, but it never will, not in college ball of any sort.
Two extreme examples ...
SCAR is ranked number one in college basketball in '70 I believe it was, ahead of perennial #1 UCLA. We go, 25-3, 14-0 in ACC conference play but lose the ACC tourney championship and do not get invited to the big dance.
NC State, Jim Valvano's miracle year, '83 was it? 17-10 regular season, 8-6 in conference play, they win the ACC tourney and proceed to win the National Championship over Phi Slamma Jamma of Houston ... thus re-enforcing the Conference Tourney Champ tradition of the NCAA.
I remember a few years ago in baseball, Cal St Fullerton had a horrible regular season, caught fire in their tournament and won it, made the NCAAs, ended-up winning the national championship by beating us in the semi finals and Texas in the finals. I think that was the CWS where CSF's pitcher threw 300 pitches in two consecutive games combined to beat us and then Texas, and afterwards Augie showed his arse and refused to come out and shake hands.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:46 pm to scrooster
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SCAR is ranked number one in college basketball in '70 I believe it was, ahead of perennial #1 UCLA. We go, 25-3, 14-0 in ACC conference play but lose the ACC tourney championship and do not get invited to the big dance.
How is that even possible?
Posted on 5/22/14 at 2:54 pm to DarthRebel
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If LSU won it all I could see them getting one
No chance in hell. There not even a lock to host right now.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:03 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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No chance in hell. There not even a lock to host right now.
They finished #3 is the SEC and if they won the tournament, you never know. I feel 2 SEC teams will get a national seed. USC is losing to Florida and going 0-2 in tSECT will remove them from consideration. That would leave Ole Miss and LSU. It would go to Ole Miss, unless we exit next and LSU wins it all. Should we lose tomorrow and LSU lost the next 2, then it really may be 1 SEC national seed.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:05 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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No chance in hell. There not even a lock to host right now.
Yes there is a chance in hell. LSU probably is the least likely but they do have a chance. They could easily have the 2nd best resume in the conference at the end of the tournament.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:19 pm to OBReb6
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How is that even possible?
Back then there were only 24 teams invited to The Dance, most of them tourney champs from their conferences. The ACC tourney champ that year was NC State so they were the only team from the ACC allowed to attend.
It's one of the reasons we decided to leave the ACC and go independent.
The irony of it was that we actually hosted the NCAA East regional in Columbia that year. We still finished third in the polls, if I remember correctly, and UCLA won the championship again by beating the Jacksonville Dolphins and Artis Gilmore.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 3:52 pm to nicholastiger
quote:The question is not why they get auto bids, as it is the conference that gets the auto bid and decides whether that does to the tournament winner or the regular season champ. The real question is why do conferences choose to have tournaments rather than simply let it go to the regular season champ.
Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids.
In leagues where you don't play a full round robin schedule, there is a fairness aspect in not having the auto bid decided by quirks in scheduling. Would you want the SEC title decided by who gets Missouri on their schedule vs. who doesn't?
The other factor is that having the conference tournament keeps teams honest. This is less a factor in the SEC than some other leagues, but, without a conference tournament and a way to play yourself into the NCAA tournament, a lot of teams could decide in mid-season to start playing for next year, and give playing time to guys who wouldn't be in the lineup if the objective is to win now. That would result in a sort of scheduling imbalance, where the contenders who faced these teams early in the season would be at a disadvantage to teams who faced them when they were just playing out the string (like Missouri was when Arkansas swept them).
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:46 pm to nicholastiger
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Also, why should tourney champs in baseball get auto bids
With the present day expanded fields in both baseball and basketball, this is a moot question. Regular season champs get in on "body of work" regardless of conference tournament outcome. These conference tournaments DO give lesser teams the chance to get in and makes for an exciting finish and factors in to seedings. And of course there's the money grab, for basketball, anyway.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 4:49 pm to bbap
I will say now that Vandy and USC are officially out of the hunt for a national seed. Ole Miss is leading candidate for the elusive 2nd SEC national seed, with LSU still needing to probably win it all.
If Ole Miss loses tomorrow, we are out of the running.
If Ole Miss loses tomorrow, we are out of the running.
Posted on 5/22/14 at 9:59 pm to DarthRebel
Ole Miss RPI up to 10. LSU up to 12. If LSU wins this tournament they're squarely in the national seed discussion.
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