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South Carolina fans: Shaw vs Thompson
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:02 am
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:02 am
Do any USCe fans think Thompson should be the starter or is Shaw the clear better QB? As an LSU fan I admittedly only watched a handful of USCe games last season, but I do remember being impressed by Thompson in the bowl game. I thought Shaw definitely played well enough for South Carolina to win in Baton Rouge, but he did have a few costly picks and I remember Spurrier being upset with his play after the game. Does Spurrier just like a QB with athleticism like Shaw or his he a better passer as well? Just curious to hear the SC fan base's thoughts
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Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:20 am to GeauxPack81
Thompson is a very capable QB, and would lead us to a successful season if he was our full-time starter. However, I feel that Shaw has more experience, and brings more options to the table as far as what he contributes to the offense when he's healthy and on the field.
IMO both QBs have the tendency to hold onto the ball too long on occasion and it gives the opposing defenses chances to sack them or gain TFLs. Thompson has developed the idea that he is the better QB over Shaw in terms of longer passes downfield or arm strength. I have not seen this: Thompson has made a lot of downfield passes for TDs and big gains, and the % of them to all completions stand out more, but Shaw has also made a ton of them as well. Thompson has a few more 40-50-60 yd pass plays than Shaw, but Shaw has a ton more 30-40 yd plays than Thompson. Shaw though is by far the more accurate passer than Thompson thus far (65%+ compared to Dylan's 50%+), so in my mind it all evens out.
IMO, Shaw was poised to have a career season last season but was hampered with various injuries that kept his production down. The biggest question for him coming into 2012 was how consistent he could become as a passer over his 6 or so starts in '11. IMO despite his struggles he proved that he could become that.
Dylan will get plenty of opportunities and possessions, and will be ready to step in should Shaw get injured again. But this team is Connor's to drive....
IMO both QBs have the tendency to hold onto the ball too long on occasion and it gives the opposing defenses chances to sack them or gain TFLs. Thompson has developed the idea that he is the better QB over Shaw in terms of longer passes downfield or arm strength. I have not seen this: Thompson has made a lot of downfield passes for TDs and big gains, and the % of them to all completions stand out more, but Shaw has also made a ton of them as well. Thompson has a few more 40-50-60 yd pass plays than Shaw, but Shaw has a ton more 30-40 yd plays than Thompson. Shaw though is by far the more accurate passer than Thompson thus far (65%+ compared to Dylan's 50%+), so in my mind it all evens out.
IMO, Shaw was poised to have a career season last season but was hampered with various injuries that kept his production down. The biggest question for him coming into 2012 was how consistent he could become as a passer over his 6 or so starts in '11. IMO despite his struggles he proved that he could become that.
Dylan will get plenty of opportunities and possessions, and will be ready to step in should Shaw get injured again. But this team is Connor's to drive....
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:21 am to ConwayGamecock
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Thompson is a very capable QB
Les is that you?
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:35 am to ConwayGamecock
quote:Preaching to the choir man
IMO both QBs have the tendency to hold onto the ball too long
. Yeah, I remember Shaw missed on 2 deep passes on blown coverages against LSU. One might have been a mis-communication but they were for sure TDs. He did hit some intermediate passes though
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:50 am to ConwayGamecock
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Thompson is a very capable QB, and would lead us to a successful season if he was our full-time starter. However, I feel that Shaw has more experience, and brings more options to the table as far as what he contributes to the offense when he's healthy and on the field.
IMO both QBs have the tendency to hold onto the ball too long on occasion and it gives the opposing defenses chances to sack them or gain TFLs. Thompson has developed the idea that he is the better QB over Shaw in terms of longer passes downfield or arm strength. I have not seen this: Thompson has made a lot of downfield passes for TDs and big gains, and the % of them to all completions stand out more, but Shaw has also made a ton of them as well. Thompson has a few more 40-50-60 yd pass plays than Shaw, but Shaw has a ton more 30-40 yd plays than Thompson. Shaw though is by far the more accurate passer than Thompson thus far (65%+ compared to Dylan's 50%+), so in my mind it all evens out.
IMO, Shaw was poised to have a career season last season but was hampered with various injuries that kept his production down. The biggest question for him coming into 2012 was how consistent he could become as a passer over his 6 or so starts in '11. IMO despite his struggles he proved that he could become that.
Dylan will get plenty of opportunities and possessions, and will be ready to step in should Shaw get injured again. But this team is Connor's to drive....
Pretty much sums up all rational USC fans thoughts, mine included (though I'm seldom rational).
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:54 am to ConwayGamecock
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ConwayGamecock
Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:27 pm to Mr.Sinister
I don't think there's a clear difference; Shaw is more experienced and poised as a leader, and is (probably) slightly more athletic. Thompson looks like the more polished pro-style QB who should be really good next year when he steps into what should be a full-time starter role. IMO it's Shaw's job to lose, although Spurrier says he plans to play both.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:07 pm to GeauxPack81
ConwayGamecock nailed it
I'd add that Thompson hasn't played serious snaps against SEC defenses yet and it looks like both will be on the field at the same time this year. Don't know if it'll be a wildcat type package or what but I'm interested to see how that works out.
I'd add that Thompson hasn't played serious snaps against SEC defenses yet and it looks like both will be on the field at the same time this year. Don't know if it'll be a wildcat type package or what but I'm interested to see how that works out.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 7:18 pm to ConwayGamecock
Conway explained it well IMHO.
The only thing I might add is that Shaw is, for this year at least, the team leader who has gained a lot of respect from his teammates because of his savvy play and his toughness.
He reminds me a great deal of Jeff Grantz, expect perhaps with a better arm, a bit faster and far more focused on the game. And Jeff was 2nd Team All-American.
Shaw is a coaches son, Thompson is a preacher's son ... I think.
Shaw is special.
Thompson has a Danny Wuerful type connection with Spurrier. They share scriptures and read the bible to one another.
The only thing I might add is that Shaw is, for this year at least, the team leader who has gained a lot of respect from his teammates because of his savvy play and his toughness.
He reminds me a great deal of Jeff Grantz, expect perhaps with a better arm, a bit faster and far more focused on the game. And Jeff was 2nd Team All-American.
Shaw is a coaches son, Thompson is a preacher's son ... I think.
Shaw is special.
Thompson has a Danny Wuerful type connection with Spurrier. They share scriptures and read the bible to one another.
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