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The Long Slide - Tennessee Volunteers Football

Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64295 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:36 pm
It's amazing how far down they slid.

I did not realize that Tennessee hasn't had a 9-win regular season since Phil Fulmer's 2007 SEC East Championship season.

That was 13 seasons ago.

In the combined seasons of 2017, 2018 and 2019, Clemson had as many SEC wins as Tennessee did. (7)


Lane Kiffen
Derek Dooley
Butch Jones
Jeremy Pruitt

As much grief as Butch gets for his tenure there, he had a better record than all of the above.

Now Josh Heupel? Will he rescue this program? Can he rescue this program? Can the program be rescued? The East is certainly down right now, but Tennessee is a big part of the overall slide of the division. USC, Mizzou, Vandy, and Kentucky fully intend to keep kicking Tennessee while it's down; and Saban, Kirby, nor Mullen have any intention of lifting their boots off Tennessee's head.


Many people say it starts with recruiting, but in the new era of transfers and NIL's taking roster management back to Bear Bryant days, it's more difficult than ever for a bottom feeder to climb its way back to the top.

Is this the new normal for Tennessee football? A look at their history says yes; in fact it seems to have been the new normal for several years now, and we've finally got the benefit of hindsight to see it.



Edit- This publication is in no way related to Tucker Carlson's new book.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64295 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:36 pm to
1980
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9060 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:40 pm to
If we hire the right guy and the admin doesn’t shite all over itself, we are fine. If Butch freaking Jones pulled in a top 5 class, anyone can. Just need that talent developed by someone with more than half a brain cell.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20524 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:46 pm to
That coaching search a few years ago was comedy gold.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54917 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:48 pm to
It is like the "Curse of the Bambino"

You get rid of the fat guy and misery follows.

Same thing happened with Kansas football
Posted by VolsDeep
Member since Mar 2017
1055 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:54 pm to
Unless you’re in your 40s and posting on tRant (which would be hella sad).....what’s it like to have never witnessed your team win a National Championship?
Posted by RebelTheBear
Saban's spare bedroom
Member since Aug 2016
5540 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Now Josh Heupel? Will he rescue this program?


I like Josh Heupel as a coach. Only problem with him is that his defenses at UCF got progressively worse, and completely dropped off a cliff last season. In ppg allowed, his teams ranked...

36th in 2018
42nd in 2019
123rd in 2020

As my dear Rebels have shown in previous years, you don't win big games in the SEC without some semblance of a defense. Tennessee ranked 70th in ppg allowed this past season, so Heupel can't let it go much farther down if he wants to win big games.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Lane Kiffen


If Kiffin stays, I dont think they would be where they are today. he had them on an upward trajectory IMO
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Can the program be rescued
Any program can fall, any program can be rescued.
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Is this the new normal for Tennessee football? A look at their history says yes; in fact it seems to have been the new normal for several years now, and we've finally got the benefit of hindsight to see it.


Tennessee doesn't have a hard climb back into relevancy, largely because they are in the SECE.

Of the 6 competing programs in the East, only two are outperforming their historical norms, Georgia and Kentucky. So it doesn't take a miracle to return to 9-3. If they could sustain that for 3 out of 4 years, then they are viable at playing for a division championship by upsetting Georgia or Florida.

But the there are two things that bash this narrative against the rocks:

1) Alabama and Auburn coming East and destroying any chance at UT ever winning the East ever again.

2) Vowel fans fancy themselves as a national power and believe they should be playing for Nattys. Thus, they would run off anyone that has a modicum of success followed by any setback. Unless they swallow their pride and accept that they are basically performing at Kentuckyish levels in football and that this is the state of their program, then they will not have the patience to ever rebuild.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16170 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:01 pm to
Which 3 teams do you believe beat UGA this year? Clemson is a given but what other 2?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:06 pm to
Think UT has hired its worst coach yet....
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:12 pm to
I miss Dooly's puke orange pants
Posted by Gore Vidal
Member since Aug 2021
336 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 5:44 pm to
Their athletic department being bankrupt hasn't helped their situation for the last while.

Fulmer was basically begging season ticket holders not ask for a refund last year even though they couldn't go to the game.
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6759 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30591 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

In the combined seasons of 2017, 2018 and 2019, Clemson had as many SEC wins as Tennessee did. (7)


This is incredible and sad all at once.

Or just incredibly sad. Either one
Posted by TinGym
Member since Jun 2016
2795 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 8:21 am to
Don't worry tho. In the lowest of Tennessee lows, MSU will still find a way to lose to them in football.
Posted by Pulparindo
Go Dawgs, Georgia
Member since Jul 2021
305 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:43 pm to
Tsunami U.

It will remain this way for a very long time. As in geologic time.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 12:48 pm to
Theyve still done more as a program than uga has, and have won a natty 20 years more recently too. I dont get uga talking shite like theyre a program thats actually accomplished something.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42695 posts
Posted on 8/17/21 at 2:32 pm to
UGA Fan; Didn't Read.
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