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re: The underachiever tiers of college football

Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41622 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:04 pm to
Florida is the biggest underachiever. Forever the largest school in the SEC in the middle of the most talented high school athletes and have to watch Bama create a dynasty. We should be ashamed. Texas is right there with us. What a bunch of fricking pussies.

But hey we're in the top 30 national universities. oh em gee!!!

We are too chickenshit to do the dirty work, and consider oursleves above it all with our fricking stupid arse olympic medals. Whoopty friggin' do!
Posted by Wafflez
Member since Sep 2019
46 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Hire Dennis Fanchione and see how that works out for you


Fran has been coaching the aggies for the last 70 years?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61842 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:13 pm to
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But I will be damned that not only was that the right move, it was the sort of aggressive move that lets Auburn overachieve.


Sometimes. Then there are other times that you make the wrong choice. I like Chizik. I thought they let him go too soon at the time. I felt like he did a great job taking over a 5 win teams in 2009 then taking them to a good bowl win and a 8 win season. Then his coaching job in 2010 was masterful. He held the team and program together in a time where they faced the most scrutiny in recent history. He lost 40 players off the roster in 2011 but still made a decent season and another good bowl win. Then 2012 happened and the wheels fell off.
He was forced to change the offense and it failed.

I felt he needed another year to right the ship but he lost the team to go with the shitty season and that was what got him canned.

It ended up being the right move. No way Chizik would have achieved what we did in 2013. So who knows.


This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:21 pm to
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Florida is the biggest underachiever. Forever the largest school in the SEC in the middle of the most talented high school athletes and have to watch Bama create a dynasty. We should be ashamed. Texas is right there with us. What a bunch of fricking pussies.

But hey we're in the top 30 national universities. oh em gee!!!

We are too chickenshit to do the dirty work, and consider oursleves above it all with our fricking stupid arse olympic medals. Whoopty friggin' do!



I was going to nominate us as well. Flagship university of the most talent rich state, with a ton of resources playing in the best football conference in America. There's really no excuse for not having more sustained championship level success.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TN Dawg2
Knoxville
Member since Jun 2021
529 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:24 pm to
The entire UGA AD underachieved.

Forget the Nattys in football for a moment, it's almost inconceivable for UGA to continually suck as bad as they do at basketball.

I'm also unclear on why Notre Dame, USC and Oklahoma don't appear on that list. If losing in the playoffs is failure, then ND and OK are failures right along with UGA. USC is also a long way removed from the ultimate success.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:35 pm to
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I'd put AU tier 1 with UGA. Revenue rich and surrounded by talent. AU can't get out of its way at times.


Hard to argue, the expectations at Auburn are much higher than the results they have been getting.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55447 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:39 pm to
We’ve only been in a position to be considered an underachiever since 1990’s
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:40 pm to
Please limit paragraphs to 3 sentences. I don't read good!
Posted by AustinAggie
Behind Enemy Lines
Member since Jul 2021
1466 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:41 pm to
I mean, I guess an argument can be made for Florida, but you also have 3 national championships in past 25 years and have a much tougher in-state recruiting situation than most big name programs in other states.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:44 pm to
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Florida is the biggest underachiever. Forever the largest school in the SEC in the middle of the most talented high school athletes and have to watch Bama create a dynasty. We should be ashamed. Texas is right there with us. What a bunch of fricking pussies.

But hey we're in the top 30 national universities. oh em gee!!!

We are too chicken shite to do the dirty work, and consider oursleves above it all with our fricking stupid arse olympic medals. Whoopty friggin' do!

Full retard.
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:50 pm to
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I'm also unclear on why Notre Dame, USC and Oklahoma don't appear on that list. If losing in the playoffs is failure, then ND and OK are failures right along with UGA. USC is also a long way removed from the ultimate success.
Not 1980 long. USC? Really? You're comparing USC's gazillion national titles and heisman trophy winners to Georgia?
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7296 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:52 pm to
I must agree that UGA has to be #1 in this.

Extremely close calls to winning the national title in 1982, 2002, 2007, 2012, and 2017...it's almost like UGA's under a curse of some sort.

2021..."Everybody, loves a winner....till somebody loved me....maybe this time, maybe this time I'll win..."
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:58 pm to
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I mean, I guess an argument can be made for Florida, but you also have 3 national championships in past 25 years and have a much tougher in-state recruiting situation than most big name programs in other states


I don't think we're the biggest, but I do think there's an argument we've underachieved. The recruiting situation is really not all that bad with a solid recruiter as a head coach, especially given the state of two of the Big 3 programs. UF should be one of the easiest sells in the country.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by BigRedNewKingOfSEC
Southeast Asia
Member since Jul 2021
477 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 3:59 pm to
Tennessee just needs to find a capable head coach - it really is all there is to revive that program, but easier said than done. Nebraska is another story, their move to the Big 10 is really cutting off recruiting pipelines.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by ChapelHillSooner
Chapel Hill
Member since Dec 2020
593 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 4:17 pm to
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Tennessee just needs to find a capable head coach - it really is all there is to revive that program, but easier said than done. Nebraska is another story, their move to the Big 10 is really cutting off recruiting pipelines.


That and they no longer get to give the county scholarships. If you have 150 kids on some type of scholarship you can build a damn good program on three star players.

Stars only give a probability and if you had their huge “walk on” program, some of those kids will end up being late bloomers and stars.
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11714 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 4:24 pm to
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Please limit paragraphs to 3 sentences. I don't read good!


miss st...understood
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 4:31 pm to
ESPN+?

Crap dude. You really had to reach for this one.
Posted by AidenKleeberg
Member since Aug 2021
3 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by BoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2017
440 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:33 pm to
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We’ve only been in a position to be considered an underachiever since 1990’s


Dude, you can’t be serious.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27303 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 10:13 pm to
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With all of the so called talent in Georgia, they aren't the only school in Georgia that doesn't win titles


This seems to be some type of theme with you and there's nothing "so called" about the Georgia talent on NFL or SEC rosters or objective recruiting rankings and Georgia or Florida are usually #1 or #2 when it comes producing the most players on SEC rosters.Sorry,these are all provable facts and not opinion.

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Georgia tech isn't a football power either within the same state and recruiting the same footprint, yet in a much easier conference than the sec


They don't and can't recruit the same players and why don't you look at all the players signed out of Georgia that helped win NC's for Clemson,Auburn,UT,Ohio State and Bama?

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The hs players in Georgia are highly esteemed and are on the map bc of their proximity to Atlanta and getting more coverage by the media than others that are better, but aren't near atl and are from other states. GA hs football isn't the hotbed that it's made out to be


WTF are you talking about?So why so many players from the state on NFL rosters? SEC rosters? GA:the most NFL players per capita You think NFL GM's and player personnel folks are drafting kids that went HS in GA because of the "media coverage" in Atlanta? What a completely idiotic narrative

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OU, clemson, Bama, auburn, tennessee, and others have won a titles since then as well without the supposed in state talent that GA has.


LMAO!AU,Clemson or UT don't sniff a NC without Georgia players on their roster. Trevor Lawrence,Cam Newton,Deshaun Watson,Deon Grant,Cosey Coleman? Any of those names ring a bell?

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It's bullshite


Unless there's some type of conspiracy to draft or sign kids from the state,it's not bullshite at all.No matter how many times your ill informed arse says it.

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From an LSU fans perspective


Which means jack squat when looking at real numbers on NFL and SEC rosters.You really need to leave your state once or twice.

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UGa is right where they should be and will always be


More wins, conference titles and bowl wins than LSU and everym SEC team other than Bama and UT?

Get your ill informed arse outta here.

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