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Bowen Loftin (Fmr A&M and Mizzou Pres)-Adding Texas would break the Gentleman's Agreement
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:35 pm
ESPN Article
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If Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC, it would break a long-standing "gentlemen's agreement" between SEC schools that gives conference members "absolute veto power" over the addition of another school from their state, according to a former Texas A&M official.
R. Bowen Loftin, who helped steer the Aggies into the SEC in 2011 while serving as A&M's president, said the oft-discussed unwritten rule was a "specific conversation" during expansion talks in 2010-11 when he was involved. Loftin also served as chancellor at Missouri in 2014-15 after the Tigers made the move to the SEC.
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"There's this understanding among the membership -- at least it was 10 years ago -- that you don't admit a school from the same state as a member school unless that member school's OK with it," Loftin told ESPN.com on Thursday. "We talked about it from time to time among ourselves, that this was the way it was going to be, that if we had another school in Texas wanting to enter the SEC, Texas A&M would have veto power."
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Loftin said the agreement prevented expansion discussion involving teams such as Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech and Miami, even when the league was targeting the ACC if 16-team superconferences came to pass in the last round of realignment.
"We discussed those specific possibilities," Loftin said. "Florida State was never in the conversation, for obvious reasons. It was clear that they would not be admittable unless Florida wanted them included, and who could imagine that?"
Loftin said most expansion discussion centered on schools such as North Carolina, NC State, Virginia or Virginia Tech, all schools in states with no SEC members.
"I can tell you that, during my time in the SEC from two different schools, that was the understanding we had," Loftin said. "It was unwritten. There's no specific rule you can point to. You can point to the bylaws, talk about having a three-quarters majority to admit a new school, which means four schools could stop it from happening legally and officially. But beyond that, there was this understanding."
Loftin said he and members of the A&M board of regents specifically discussed Texas' membership prospects during expansion talks with Slive, who was commissioner at the time. Slive died in 2018.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:38 pm to aggressor
So it ok for Tenn/Vandy, Bama/Au, Miss State/Ole Miss to compete but that the others can't handle it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:42 pm to aggressor
The commissioner, most of the ADs and most of the Presidents from 2011 are gone.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:43 pm to aggressor
A&M needs to get out the way, this is a beneficial move for everybody outside of College Station.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:43 pm to aggressor
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Gentleman's Agreement
So is that like an enforceable contract or...?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:47 pm to aggressor
A&M fans have brought me more joy in the last 2 days than I deserve. Thank you melting bitches for Christmas in July
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:49 pm to aggressor
I don’t care what sources are saying on Twitter, there’s no way Texas/OU are getting 11 yes votes
OU alone could potentially get 11 yes votes, but Texas won’t.
OU alone could potentially get 11 yes votes, but Texas won’t.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:50 pm to aggressor
The gentleman’s agreement only matters for Kentucky, LSU, Georgia and Florida. When six of the ten teams that were in the SEC prior to 1992 have in-state bedfellows, you’re going to have a really hard time clinging to a dumb notion that you should be your state’s only SEC representative.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:50 pm to aggressor
You are hoping a gentleman’s agreement saves your asses? Geez.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:51 pm to aggressor
Aggie can veto Texas. I don't blame them. They would lose a recruiting advantage. Texas can join the Pac12. OU can join the SEC. Aggies don't have an issue with OU do they?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:54 pm to aggressor
quote:If they want to pick up their ball and go home, I'm sure Baylor, TCU and Texas Tech will gladly welcome them home.
If Texas and Oklahoma join the SEC, it would break a long-standing "gentlemen's agreement" between SEC schools that gives conference members "absolute veto power" over the addition of another school from their state, according to a former Texas A&M official.
R. Bowen Loftin, who helped steer the Aggies into the SEC in 2011 while serving as A&M's president, said the oft-discussed unwritten rule was a "specific conversation" during expansion talks in 2010-11 when he was involved. Loftin also served as chancellor at Missouri in 2014-15 after the Tigers made the move to the SEC.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:54 pm to aggressor
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Gentleman's Agreement
This ain't the Big10
Posted on 7/22/21 at 6:09 pm to aggressor
If it ain’t on paper it’s vapor
Posted on 7/22/21 at 6:18 pm to aggressor
lol don't associate him with us, we kicked his arse to the curb quick because he's a douche like this.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 6:19 pm to aggressor
If A&M isn’t happy the door is open for you to leave.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 6:46 pm to aggressor
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Bowen Loftin (Fmr A&M and Mizzou Pres)-Adding Texas would break the Gentleman's Agreement
Well that settles it, Texas is staying in the B12 and we need to hunt for another team to even things out
If we're adding OU to the West we need an East Coast team to balance things out
Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:13 pm to aggressor
If aggy gets to say no i will laugh my arse off.
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