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re: Mini Mike Bianco coming home?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:53 am to Serraneaux
Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:53 am to Serraneaux
I guess anything is possible, but I just don’t see it.
LSU fans would melt if Bianco was the choice. Not because anyone necessarily dislikes Bianco, he just can’t be the choice due to his postseason failures.
LSU fans would melt if Bianco was the choice. Not because anyone necessarily dislikes Bianco, he just can’t be the choice due to his postseason failures.
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 11:55 am to VolsUberAlles
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Your program is significantly worse than Tennessee
fascinating. Please enlighten us.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 2:57 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:They will melt no matter what
LSU fans would melt if Bianco was the choice.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:04 pm to VolsUberAlles
quote:Oh I'd love to hear the reasoning behind this one
Your program is significantly worse than Tennessee
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:35 pm to Serraneaux
There’s a better chance we hire Tim Corbin than it is Mike Bianco
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:36 pm to ColoradoAg
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They will melt no matter what
First true thing an aggy has said today
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:50 pm to go ta hell ole miss
Unreasonable expectations at lsu? There are very reasonable expectations at lsu. We will be where we should be again and very short amount of time. We should be competing in Omaha damn near every season. That's not unreasonable for lsu.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:04 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
quote:I get the pride y'all have in y'all's program. That being said, this isn't close to the same conference that Skip coached in. The SEC only had LSU, State, Arkansas and occasionally Alabama when Skip was running roughshod over everyone. Now you have at least 5 or 6 top 10 teams in the conference and half of those are usually in the West and in the top 5.
There are very reasonable expectations at lsu. We will be where we should be again and very short amount of time. We should be competing in Omaha damn near every season. That's not unreasonable for lsu.
Expecting LSU to have Skip era type of success is unreasonable.
There is no program in this country that should expect to get to Omaha ever single year. It's just not realistic
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:22 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I get the pride y'all have in y'all's program. That being said, this isn't close to the same conference that Skip coached in. The SEC only had LSU, State, Arkansas and occasionally Alabama when Skip was running roughshod over everyone. Now you have at least 5 or 6 top 10 teams in the conference and half of those are usually in the West and in the top 5.
Expecting LSU to have Skip era type of success is unreasonable.
Not completely discounting this, but the SEC had 3 or more teams in Omaha several times in the 90s. The top of the SEC has been elite for a long time.
1990: UGA, State, LSU
1991: LSU, Florida
1992: nobody
1993: LSU
1994: LSU, Auburn
1995: Tennessee
1996: LSU, Florida, Alabama
1997: LSU, State, Auburn, Alabama
1998: LSU, Florida, State
1999: Alabama
LSU: 7x
Florida: 3x
Alabama: 3x
State: 3x
Auburn: 2x
UGA: 1
Tennessee: 1
Compare that to the 2010s
2010: Florida, USC
2011: Florida, USC, Vandy
2012: Florida, USC, Arkansas
2013: LSU, State
2014: Ole Miss, Vandy
2015: LSU, Florida, Arkansas, Vandy
2016: Florida
2017: LSU, Florida, A&M
2018: Arkansas, Florida, State
2019: Arkansas, Auburn, State, Vandy
Florida: 6x
Arkansas: 4x
LSU: 3x
Vandy: 2x
State: 2x
Auburn: 1
Ole Miss: 1
A&M: 1
The big difference is the bottom of the conference is much more competative now. And, as you can see, in almost all those CWS appearances with Skip, they were heavily littered with SEC teams. Hell LSU played Florida twice in the 1991 and 1996 CWS, Alabama in the 1997 title game, and State in 1998.
But I don't think most LSU fans expect Skip-era accomplishments, and I don't think that's what the poster meant by his comment
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:27 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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There is no program in this country that should expect to get to Omaha ever single year. It's just not realistic
I don’t think Omaha every single year is actually the expectation. But if you’re not making at least the Supers 8 or 9 times out of 10 that’s a problem and that’s not an unreasonable expectation for LSU
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:31 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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occasionally Alabama
Wasn't any occasionally about it. The 2nd half of Bertman's tenure (1995-2001) we were a Top 10 program.
During Bertman's 17 years at LSU (1984-2001)
Alabama
- 0 National Titles
- 1 National Runner-Up (to LSU)
- 3 CWS (1996, 1997, 1999) (5th, 2nd, 4th)
- 1 SEC Title (1996)
- 8 SEC Tournament Titles
- 8 NCAA Tournaments
Arkansas
- 0 National Titles
- 0 National Runner-Up
- 1 CWS (1989) (5th)
- 1 SEC Title (1999)
- 0 SEC Tournament Titles
- 10 NCAA Tournaments
Mississippi State
- 0 National Titles
- 0 National Runner-Up
- 4 CWS (1985, 1990, 1997, 1998)
- 3 SEC Titles (1985, 1987, 1989)
- 3 SEC Tournament Titles (1985, 1987, 1990)
- 15 NCAA Tournaments
Mississippi State
- 0 National Titles
- 0 National Runner-Up
- 4 CWS (1985, 1990, 1997, 1998)
- 3 SEC Titles (1985, 1987, 1989)
- 3 SEC Tournament Titles (1985, 1987, 1990)
- 15 NCAA Tournaments
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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0 National Titles
1 National Runner-Up
13-6
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Yep - LSU stood in our way on more than 1 occasion, but that was certainly the biggest. I honestly felt better about 1999 than 1997. We had won like 16 straight going to Omaha, including beating LSU pretty badly twice in the Supers. Just couldn't beat Miami.
We were probably the 3rd best baseball program in the country during that stretch of 4-5 years in the late 1990s. But the #1 and #2 programs were LSU and Miami, and we couldn't crack them in Omaha.
We were probably the 3rd best baseball program in the country during that stretch of 4-5 years in the late 1990s. But the #1 and #2 programs were LSU and Miami, and we couldn't crack them in Omaha.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Alabama
- 0 National Titles
- 1 National Runner-Up (to LSU)
I was about to chastise you about 1983 runner up until I saw the timeframe.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:41 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I was about to chastise you about 1983 runner up until I saw the timeframe.
Dave Magadan would never
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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But if you’re not making at least the Supers 8 or 9 times out of 10 that’s a problem and that’s not an unreasonable expectation for LSU
That might be a bit much. Mainieri made it that far 8 times from 2008-2019 which is very good. LSU should never, however, miss the tournament. But to say what should or shouldn’t happen in a tournament format is a tough bar with his unpredictable they can be. Missing one super in 10 years is an unfair expectation to put on anyone
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:48 pm to lsufball19
I'd imagine Mainieri's records from 2008-2017 were fine, right? It was 2018-2021 when the patterns of non-championship level ball set in that it became a problem.
Ignoring 2007 as it was a cleanup year for the prior mess
2008-2017 (10 seasons)
- 1 National Title
- 1 National Runner-Up
- 5 College World Series
- 7 Super Regionals
- 9 NCAA Tournaments
- 4 SEC Titles
- 6 SEC Tournament Titles
2018-2021 (3 Seasons, COVID)
- 0 National Titles
- 0 National Runner Up
- 0 College World Series
- 1 Super Regional
- 3 NCAA Tournaments
- 0 SEC Titles
- 0 SEC Tournament Titles
That's a pretty stark fall off
Ignoring 2007 as it was a cleanup year for the prior mess
2008-2017 (10 seasons)
- 1 National Title
- 1 National Runner-Up
- 5 College World Series
- 7 Super Regionals
- 9 NCAA Tournaments
- 4 SEC Titles
- 6 SEC Tournament Titles
2018-2021 (3 Seasons, COVID)
- 0 National Titles
- 0 National Runner Up
- 0 College World Series
- 1 Super Regional
- 3 NCAA Tournaments
- 0 SEC Titles
- 0 SEC Tournament Titles
That's a pretty stark fall off
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Honestly, I would expect LSU to make it to the Supers 2 out of 3 years. That is a reasonable expectation.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'd imagine Mainieri's records from 2008-2017 were fine, right?
Depends on who you ask
on the whole, yes I think they were ok, but he had some epic chokes in a few of those seasons with really good teams that shouldn’t have happened: Losing super to Stony Brook in 2012, Losing two straight to Houston to lose home regional in 2014, doing nothing in Omaha in 2013 (we were like 57-9 going into the CWS) or 2015, losing to FSU in 2019 home super regional. I would say losing at home to Coastal but they ended up winning the whole thing so it’s hard to really get that mad about it.This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:55 pm to lsufball19
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Depends on who you ask on the whole, yes I think they were ok, but he had some epic chokes in a few of those seasons with really good teams that shouldn’t have happened
Those were some talented arse teams - especially in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
That 2012 Stony Brook team, goodness. Nola, Gausman plus all those arms who had MLB cups of coffee at the least (Eades, Rumbelow, Goody). Plus Katz, Jones, Rhymes and Austin Nola.
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