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Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:12 pm to CrimsonFever
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:12 pm to CrimsonFever
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Jeff Goodman
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Louisiana transfer Cedric Russell has committed to Ohio State, source told @Stadium. Averaged 17 points per game last season and will help ease the scoring blow of losing Duane Washington Jr., to the pros.
Looks like TT or Alabama for Shack.
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:22 pm to CrimsonFever
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Looks like TT or Alabama for Shack.
Can’t imagine he’ll be getting close to the same shots in the TT offense.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:26 pm to Brodeur
I will be honest, I can’t really understand him wanting to leave with the shots and freedom he has here
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:28 pm to Bear88
Why TF is Shack in a hurry to turn pro? He has 3 more years left of playing college basketball. Someone needs to be honest with him about his pro chances and tell him to get his degree and develop his game as much as he can in college
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:32 pm to Bear88
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I will be honest, I can’t really understand him wanting to leave with the shots and freedom he has here
It seems that it's more about getting to run the offense than it is getting to take the most shots. He will be, at best, our 3rd option at PG next year. His NBA feedback was likely "too small to play off the ball, haven't seen anything to indicate you can play PG." All he will do here is play off the ball unless it's transition, and he ain't growing to 6'6" between now and next summer.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:34 pm to Robot Santa
If he is patient this year...JD and JQ will both be leaving and he can run some point with Jaden Bradley next year. But him and his dad for some reason think he has to turn pro ASAP
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:37 pm to mistaken4193
I think Shack knows his pro chances unless he can score 20 points and look better than what he is.
His dad probably filled his head with a bunch of nonsense like, “Son, if you can go somewhere and be the main dude you can get 20-25 points a game and you’ll get signed quicker.”
He knows that with Davison and Gurley here, he’s not going to be able to put up those numbers.
Primo barely put up numbers, but his potential is clearly there. An NBA team isn’t going to pull the trigger on Shack unless they think he can just be a volume scorer off the bench.
Shack needs to work on his driving game though, and he would have had better numbers last year. He missed a bunch of layup opportunities.
His dad probably filled his head with a bunch of nonsense like, “Son, if you can go somewhere and be the main dude you can get 20-25 points a game and you’ll get signed quicker.”
He knows that with Davison and Gurley here, he’s not going to be able to put up those numbers.
Primo barely put up numbers, but his potential is clearly there. An NBA team isn’t going to pull the trigger on Shack unless they think he can just be a volume scorer off the bench.
Shack needs to work on his driving game though, and he would have had better numbers last year. He missed a bunch of layup opportunities.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:47 pm to mistaken4193
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If he is patient this year...JD and JQ will both be leaving and he can run some point with Jaden Bradley next year.
Doubt. If we sign Bradley, which isn't even a given, Oats will bring in a grad transfer or JuCo guard or something. There's also Burnett. I think he's probably an off ball guy, but who knows. With Shack it's not the depth chart IMO. He's just not a PG. He isn't that kind of athlete or ball handler and probably never will be.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 1:51 pm to Robot Santa
Burnett would probably be a better PG than Shack, here was his write up on his 247 recruiting page.
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A big-bodied guard who excels both on and off the ball. When he plays on the ball, he uses his frame with great length to overpower defenders and get to into the lane. Once there, Burnett shows solid floor vision and is good at finding shooters. When he plays off the ball, Burnett makes himself into a scorer who can get buckets by both attacking the basket and from deep.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:12 pm to CrimsonFever
If Burnett's shooting translates from what we've heard during practice to this upcoming season, he's a clear upgrade over Shack. The whole situation is just a red flag for me. The dude isn't even a projected draft pick, knows he's a 4-year player (nothing wrong with that), the leading scorer for a conference champ/2 seed, and is in one of the best systems in the country and wants to leave? Like I said earlier, it's not as big of a loss as others have indicated but idk if we'll ever find out the true reasons for him leaving.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:23 pm to Robot Santa
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Doubt. If we sign Bradley, which isn't even a given, Oats will bring in a grad transfer or JuCo guard or something. There's also Burnett. I think he's probably an off ball guy, but who knows. With Shack it's not the depth chart IMO. He's just not a PG. He isn't that kind of athlete or ball handler and probably never will be.
The smartest thing for him to do would be to stay here, be a scorer off the bench, and during practice/free time start trying to develop those PG skills. He would have another full offseason to strictly focus on that, and next year he could be a true combo Guard or even starter depending on how the roster shakes out.
If he would rather jump now to a slow-paced offense like Texas Tech, who just wrecked Burnett's offensive game the year before, and force himself into the PG position right off the bat then go for it. He may end up hurting his stock more than helping it.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:24 pm to TheNameIsDalton
Yes, it’s very strange. Maybe the rumors of Burnett in practice are true and he feels like he’s lost his spot.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:36 pm to CrimsonFever
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Burnett would probably be a better PG than Shack
Oh yeah, I think so too. He's a big, strong kid and his wingspan is enormous so he has a better shot of scoring over interior defenders. I don't think he's super twitchy the way Sexton, Kira, and JQ are, but I think he's a good enough athlete to spell whoever the primary PG is.
Basically a combo guard.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:38 pm to Shackleville
There are shooting guards in the NBA that are 6'3 and under, Donovan Mitchell, CJ McCollum, Bradley Beal, Jrue Holiday are some really good ones. I guess instead of getting better at shooting and defense Shack thinks he should learn a whole new position as a JR in college and switch to PG?
He is getting bad advice from somewhere.
He is getting bad advice from somewhere.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:42 pm to CrimsonFever
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I like Shack, I really do. If the pros/Euros say his size means PG, how can Oats guarantee him OTJ training minutes in a 100 mph offense ahead of two PGs most defenders can’t stay in front of?
Cecil tweet.
In my opinion, both sides need to move on. He’s not going to get what he wants here. It could turn very toxic and get distracting.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:46 pm to Cobrasize
True, and we have few minutes to split between a lot of good players already.
I think honestly it’s irrelevant as long as Burnett shoots well and Frenchy Is healthy.
I think honestly it’s irrelevant as long as Burnett shoots well and Frenchy Is healthy.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:56 pm to CrimsonFever
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There are shooting guards in the NBA that are 6'3 and under, Donovan Mitchell, CJ McCollum, Bradley Beal, Jrue Holiday
If Shack was as athletic as any of those guys he'd have gotten a 1st round grade.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:00 pm to Shackleville
I think at this point it’s probably best that both sides move on. Shack entered the portal, so be it. I just think it would be a huge distraction to bring him back at this point
Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:01 pm to Robot Santa
That's fair, but Shack is probably at least as athletic as Seth Curry who is a 6'2 SG and an NBA starter. If Shack could get above 40% as a three point shooter he could possibly make it as a SG, I doubt he ever gets to that point though.
IMO he has a much better chance at shooting over 40% from three than switching to PG now and being an NBA level PG in two years.
IMO he has a much better chance at shooting over 40% from three than switching to PG now and being an NBA level PG in two years.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:08 pm to CrimsonFever
Come on, Shack will never be as good as players like Mitchell, Beal or McCollum.
And Seth Curry? Dude is 2nd all time in 3P% in NBA history. Shack is barely shooting 35% in college.
And Seth Curry? Dude is 2nd all time in 3P% in NBA history. Shack is barely shooting 35% in college.
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