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Posted on 3/27/22 at 11:42 pm to Bryant91092
Posted on 3/27/22 at 11:42 pm to Bryant91092
Someone on twitter was telling me he broke his foot but I have no clue if that’s true. Haven’t seen it anywhere else.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 1:18 am to Tide or Die87
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I disagree. He needs to be able to get past the initial defender to break down the defense. Didnt see it in his highlights on a lower level of basketball. Do t think it would be easy in the SEC. That being said it would be nice to have a PG with experience.
Handles are the best way to break down a defender. Just look at the NBA. None of the top PGs rn except Ja and Lillard have an elite first step. Curry, Luka, CP3, etc all solely rely on their handles to get by their defender
Posted on 3/28/22 at 2:23 am to Crimsontide1713
Idk what highlights i just watched because he must not have had handles either because he struggled getting past defenders.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 4:41 am to Crimsontide1713
CP3 & Luka know how to get too their spots without elite quickness nor an extraordinary handle.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:12 am to Joka2kold
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Brandon Miller – The word on the Alabama wing headed into the week’s festivities is that he’s a long and lanky wing who is a bit of a gunslinger when it comes to the jump shot. He’s also been known to float and settle making him easier to defend at times.
Make no mistake, Miller has showed up ready to play in attack mode and he’s helped himself by doing so.
At 6-foot-8, his ability to hit from deep and his near automatic pull-up jumper from between 12 and 17 feet has turned some heads. Ultimately, he still needs to add strength and continue to get more consistent, but his effort so far has been a good one
247 write up on McDonald's All-American practices re:Brandon Miller
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Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:20 am to DT55Forever1
As long as the staff is confident in the defensive abilities of the returning guys plus the incoming freshmen, I love the idea of bringing in a guy like Reeves who is just an offensive bucket getter. As we've seen in this tournament, you can NEVER have enough guys who can get baskets when the shot clock is winding down or the other team is disrupting what you are doing on offense. Reeves absolutely looks like that type of guy.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:22 am to DT55Forever1
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his near automatic pull-up jumper from between 12 and 17 feet
Assuming "near automatic" means he makes 2/3 of them during live action ala KD, then all the wannabe Norman Dales that bitch about the lack of mid-range jumpers in our offense will probably be happy next season. Oats won't stop a guy from taking that shot if he's actually efficient with it. It's just that there are very, very few players who are, and pretty much all of them are in the NBA.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
Agree on Reeves. He is the only mid-major transfer guard I've seen who appears truly out of place at that level of competition. He's just quicker and more athletic than everyone else on the court.
I do wonder how he's so bad on defense though. He's 6'5", looks pretty long, and is clearly a really good athlete. There's no reason why he shouldn't be an average defender.
I do wonder how he's so bad on defense though. He's 6'5", looks pretty long, and is clearly a really good athlete. There's no reason why he shouldn't be an average defender.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:33 am to Robot Santa
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I do wonder how he's so bad on defense though. He's 6'5", looks pretty long, and is clearly a really good athlete. There's no reason why he shouldn't be an average defender.
He also has pretty good steal numbers, which is one of those "is he quick enough" numbers that can tell you if a guy is able or not (unless he's just a gambler PG).
It looks like they were a pretty horrid defensive team overall (#251 overall per KP), so perhaps it's more of a team issue. You'd probably have to watch full games and watch him specifically to tell.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:35 am to Robot Santa
That’s why I like the midrange with a capable player. It can really separate the Allstars from the superstars.
KD, Kyrie, Luka, LeBron, etc. can all hit that pull up J from 12-17 and sometimes it’s nearly impossible to stop them when they are hot.
If Miller gets hot and is making 60% from midrange one game, how do you defend the offense? Odds are a few games a year he will as he’s done it through his high school career.
KD, Kyrie, Luka, LeBron, etc. can all hit that pull up J from 12-17 and sometimes it’s nearly impossible to stop them when they are hot.
If Miller gets hot and is making 60% from midrange one game, how do you defend the offense? Odds are a few games a year he will as he’s done it through his high school career.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
A lot it times defensive effort is kind of contagious. Rarely do you have just one elite defender on a poor defensive team.
Look at Herb last season. Even some of our other players played up defensively because of his leadership.
Look at Herb last season. Even some of our other players played up defensively because of his leadership.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:40 am to YellaDog
The mid-range thing isn't all math, because some guys are more comfortable pulling up off the dribble from there, shooting it in transition, etc, but the pure math is pretty simple on the sliding scale of what you gotta do for the shot to be efficient enough to shoot it.
If you are a 40% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 60% from mid-range for it to be efficient (in reality just bomb 3s please).
If you are a 35% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 53% from mid-range for it to be efficient.
If you are a 33% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 50% from mid-range for it to be efficient.
I'd guess if Miller ends up being a guy who shoots around 50% on that shot and is super comfortable with it he'll be given free reign to do so. I absolutely agree that there is an additional aspect to it that, if a guy is comfortable and consistent with it, that stresses the defense much, much more when they feel the pressure to defend all 3 levels of the half-court.
If you are a 40% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 60% from mid-range for it to be efficient (in reality just bomb 3s please).
If you are a 35% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 53% from mid-range for it to be efficient.
If you are a 33% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 50% from mid-range for it to be efficient.
I'd guess if Miller ends up being a guy who shoots around 50% on that shot and is super comfortable with it he'll be given free reign to do so. I absolutely agree that there is an additional aspect to it that, if a guy is comfortable and consistent with it, that stresses the defense much, much more when they feel the pressure to defend all 3 levels of the half-court.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:44 am to YellaDog
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A lot it times defensive effort is kind of contagious. Rarely do you have just one elite defender on a poor defensive team.
Look at Herb last season. Even some of our other players played up defensively because of his leadership.
Agree, and also having an elite defender just makes it easier on guys who are flawed defenders because 1-2 of those guys makes up for a lot of errors and athletic flaws.
Metrics are fun and great but I think they struggle with figuring out team defense vs individual defense.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
I agree, especially when he’s hitting that shot off the dribble. They have to send help from down low or from across the key and then someone else is going to have a lane or a three.
Should be a super interesting team. Especially once the roster fills out and we know what we really have.
Should be a super interesting team. Especially once the roster fills out and we know what we really have.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:47 am to YellaDog
Yep - I think the biggest key to that is you have to be consistently good enough for the other team to feel the need to key on defending it. At that point, you will take a little lower shooting % on it because the other team scrambling to defend it opens more up and in and of itself is an efficiency increase due to situations like you described.
Yea it really should be - I'm really excited about what this group looks like next year. Not necessarily "we're gonna be awesome", but curious and excited about all that pieces.
Yea it really should be - I'm really excited about what this group looks like next year. Not necessarily "we're gonna be awesome", but curious and excited about all that pieces.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:48 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yep, and often times you’ll see teams just picking their poison because they won’t be good enough defensively to defend all three and by trying to they will make too many mistakes.
I think the problem this season just boiled down to lack of defensive athleticism and poor 3pt shooting. A lot of times in the crunch situations we broke down defensively and then on the offensive end the defense just let us shoot the 3 because the odds were bad that we’d hit it.
Hopefully this upcoming season will nullify that and we will capitalize when they try that crap on us.
I think the problem this season just boiled down to lack of defensive athleticism and poor 3pt shooting. A lot of times in the crunch situations we broke down defensively and then on the offensive end the defense just let us shoot the 3 because the odds were bad that we’d hit it.
Hopefully this upcoming season will nullify that and we will capitalize when they try that crap on us.
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If you are a 40% 3-pt shooter, you need to shoot 60% from mid-range for it to be efficient (in reality just bomb 3s please).
If you are a 40%+ 3pt shooter and can make 60% from ~15 feet then you can take whatever shot you want as far as I'm concerned. That's why I say that if Miller is that kind of shooter, Oats will likely give him the green light from wherever he feels like it as long as he's not doing stupid shite like taking turnaround fadeaway 15 footers with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Unless he can make them like Karl Malone used to, in which case fire away.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:52 am to Robot Santa
Like Dirk in that championship series against LeBron.
One thing that has me worried about the team going forward is what happened to guys like Ellis and Gary. They didn’t have the same “Dawg” mentality they seemed to have last season.
I’m curious as to why that is.
One thing that has me worried about the team going forward is what happened to guys like Ellis and Gary. They didn’t have the same “Dawg” mentality they seemed to have last season.
I’m curious as to why that is.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:54 am
Posted on 3/28/22 at 8:52 am to Robot Santa
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That's why I say that if Miller is that kind of shooter, Oats will likely give him the green light from wherever he feels like it as long as he's not doing stupid shite like taking turnaround fadeaway 15 footers with 20 seconds left on the shot clock
That's the key - if the mid-range shots are good, open, in rhythm shots and you are a consistent shooter then have at it. Once you start going all Kobe on us then you lose your green light.
This post was edited on 3/28/22 at 8:54 am
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