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CFB Program Rankings: 2020

Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:42 am
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:42 am
I created a formula years ago and update it every year at the conclusion of the season. It's roughly based on the all-time AP Poll Standings, with a 3x bonus for winning a championship. So if a team wins a National Title, they get 75 points. The #2 team gets 24 points. The #3 team gets 23 points, etc.

AP Poll performance in the most recent 10 seasons gets 100% credit... meaning no deductions.

Each team's annual points from 50 years ago and longer back only gets 50% credit.

Each teams' annual points that are 11-49 seasons ago get partial credit on a sliding scale that deducts slightly the further away it gets.

So for example, all National Titles won from 2011-2020 get the full 75 points. All national Titles won between 1936-1971 get half credit (37.5 points). The 1972 title won by USC gets 51.25% credit, the 1973 title won by Alabama gets 52.50% credit, etc. all the way up to Auburn's National Title in 2010 which now just started deducting and it now gets 98.75% credit. With each passing year it will get less and less credit until it reaches 50 years ago and then it sits constant at 50% credit.

This system credits teams for all-time success, but it rewards more recent success with a greater value. It's a balance between the two.

With that said, here are the updated Program Rankings through 2020 with change in rank from last year noted:

1. Alabama- 1,271
2. Ohio State- 979
3. Oklahoma- 970
4. Notre Dame- 844
5. USC- 787
6. Michigan- 712
7. Nebraska- 681
8. LSU- 657
9. Texas- 644
10. Florida St.- 585
11. Miami- 582
12. Florida- 581
13. Penn St.- 553
14. Georgia- 503 (up 2 spots)
15. Clemson- 502 (up 2 spots)
16. Tennessee- 499 (down 2 spots)
17. Auburn- 487- (down 2 spots)
18. Michigan St.- 347
19. UCLA- 336
20. Texas A&M- 303 (up 2 spots)
21. Washington- 295 (down 1 spot)
22. Wisconsin- 286 (down 1 spot)
23. Arkansas- 267
24. Oregon- 254
25. TCU- 246

The gap between #10 Florida State and #17 Auburn is relatively small.... all 8 teams are closely packaged together. Meanwhile Alabama is now so far out front, it would take a decade or more for Ohio State or Oklahoma to catch them.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75887 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:43 am to
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10. Florida St.- 585


How in the hell did they not drop?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:43 am to
I really think your formula for this is as good as any I've seen at measuring something that is extremely difficult to measure.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123720 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:43 am to
Really well done OP
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:43 am to
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Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:44 am to
Tennessee is a dying program
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21229 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:44 am to
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14. Georgia- 503 (up 2 spots)

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17. Auburn- 487- (down 2 spots)

Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
7536 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123720 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 11:57 am to
Can you do just from the BCS era to present?
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5707 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:05 pm to
Interesting analysis.

LSU was a couple spots higher than I would have figured and both Tennessee and Penn St a couple spots lower... although I could see Tennessee dropping like a rock. LSU seems to have assumed the historical SEC runner-up spot.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:14 pm to
If you remove the point deductions for AP Poll points from many years ago and just treat all points the same..... ie a #10 finish in 1936 is treated as equal as a #10 finish in 2020, etc.... most programs come out within 1-2 spots in terms of ranking regardless.

The programs that benefit the most from awarding more points to more recent success are these (number of ranking spots increased):

+9 Oregon
+4 Wisconsin
+4 TCU
+3 Florida State
+3 Texas A&M
+3 Iowa

These programs have performed substantially better in the last 50 years than prior to that. **I was shocked Clemson didn't show up. They would be #17 without the age deductions included where as they finish #15 with them included. So they do benefit but only by 2 spots.

On the flip-side, here are the programs most penalized by deducting from performance that occurred many years ago:

-8 Minnesota
-7 Army
-5 Ole Miss
-5 Pitt
-5 Tennessee
-3 Penn State

Obviously Minnesota... a program with 4 National Titles all won between 1936-1960 is going to hurt the most from this system. If all performance is treated equal, they are the #20 program of all-time. But if you deduct points away from championships won many years ago, they fall all the way to #28. **I was surprised Nebraska didn't show up on this list. They likely will in time, but they actually come out #7 either way you run it.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9786 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:27 pm to
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8. LSU- 657


Not possible. I’m told LSU is clinging to 1 national title and a phantom season and was never nor will never be a good team again.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58943 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:27 pm to
You put a ton of work into this. I am wondering what the points change was for the teams. Seeing those numbers make me wonder how much change the points made for this season. Do you have the points changes handy?
Posted by JGriffin1984
Houston, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
3 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:28 pm to
I really like this ranking system. Very objective. For reference, and to put into context the greatness of Alabama's last ten years (excluding 2010 season and everything that came before it), Alabama has accumulated 482 points, which would put it only 5 points behind Auburn's total program history points.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30969 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:29 pm to
Have you been doing this long enough to see someone other than LSU as the #2 SEC team?

Just curious if you had, and when they passed whomever used to be #2 (guessing Florida?)
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11132 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:46 pm to
Solid post. BHMKyle always brings game. He's the only reason not to nuke the entire UGA fanbase.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50742 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:48 pm to
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10. Florida St.- 585
20. Texas A&M- 303 (up 2 spots)


Wow

Jimbo doing work here.

First he builds FSU up so much they can withstand the worst they been... ever.

Now he has A&M climbing the charts.

Time for an extension/raise!
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50742 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:49 pm to
Can you please do the formula over, but heavily weight the late 30s, early 40s, mid 50s, late 80s, 90s, 2012, and since Jimbo took over? Thanks.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:53 pm to
Bravo!
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30969 posts
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:38 pm to
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10. Florida St.- 585
11. Miami- 582
12. Florida- 581


Neck and neck and neck.
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