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re: USA Today: LSU mishandled sexual complaints against students, including top athletes

Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:16 am to
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Correct

The Guice situation needs to be addressed and the truth needs to be found

But adding in the absolute awful reporting and lack of facts on the other cases that LSU handled completely fine make the entire article hard to take serious

That is my only point. Guice absolutely needs to be investigated and heads need to role if need be, but this article is nothing but troll bait



WAT? "At least seven LSU officials had direct knowledge that wide receiver Drake Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend, a different LSU women’s tennis player, but they sat on the information for months, while Davis continued to assault and strangle her."
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:17 am to
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So you're saying the LSU Athletic Department had received two allegations of rape by an LSU football player against two other student-athletes, but failed to notify the HC of the football team?


There's no proof that the two allegations ever made it past the Title IX office (whose report didnt even name Guice) and the tennis coach.

So yeah, I'm saying its a baseless allegation to state that Orgeron "knew about it."
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17369 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:22 am to
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There's no proof that the two allegations ever made it past the Title IX office (whose report didnt even name Guice) and the tennis coach.

So yeah, I'm saying its a baseless allegation to state that Orgeron "knew about it."

Sounds like the LSU Title IX office covered up the rape accusations to give the HC an out for continuing to play the accused rapist, doesn't it?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

quote:
There's no proof that the two allegations ever made it past the Title IX office (whose report didnt even name Guice) and the tennis coach.

So yeah, I'm saying its a baseless allegation to state that Orgeron "knew about it."
quote:

Sounds like the LSU Title IX office covered up the rape accusations to give the HC an out for continuing to play the accused rapist, doesn't it?

How could the Athletic Director not know, how could the multiple Asst AD's not know and forward that critical information to all of the football coaches? Jeez
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53242 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:24 am to
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WAT? "At least seven LSU officials had direct knowledge that wide receiver Drake Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend, a different LSU women’s tennis player, but they sat on the information for months, while Davis continued to assault and strangle her."


The tennis player covered for Davis on multiple occasions when police and other officials tried to investigate incidents.
Posted by LC412000
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:26 am to
Gulf Coast
Member since Oct 2020
64 posts


All that is needed from the original poster

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53242 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:28 am to
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How could the Athletic Director not know, how could the multiple Asst AD's not know and forward that critical information to all of the football coaches? Jeez ?



See, now you're making assumptions again.

Not sure why its rustling jimmies for me to say something is a "baseless allegation" when there's no proof of it happening and no one has even stated that it happened.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30292 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:34 am to
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SidewalkTiger
You were posting 24/7 last week due to the LSU/Bama postponed game.

New week - and you're having to work like a crazy man to debunk this article. I hope LSU's paying you for your time, you damn well deserve it.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23145 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:35 am to
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But the details of how LSU handled complaints against the other seven, including two who played key roles on its 2020 national championship team, remain largely secret.


Talk me through the 7 players discussed here. I just want to know the 7 and what people know
Posted by LC412000
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:39 am to
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Talk me through the 7 players discussed here. I just want to know the 7 and what people know
The 7 players are Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

What do people know? They know the 7 players are Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

Any other questions we can help you with?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96209 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:39 am to
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WAT? "At least seven LSU officials had direct knowledge that wide receiver Drake Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend, a different LSU women’s tennis player, but they sat on the information for months, while Davis continued to assault and strangle her."
This is fricking ridiculous

Cops were notified, and the victim(tennis player)then changed her story and lied to police to protect davis. During time of all investigations Davis was suspended

If you hold this against lsu football you are 100% a troll
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 11:40 am
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23145 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:40 am to
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Any other questions we can help you with?



Are you triggered?

Are you mad?

Are you upset?

Are you butthurt?
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:41 am to
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Are you triggered?

Are you mad?

Are you upset?

Are you butthurt?



Yes, flying out to deal with Covid spike in MO, so I am all of the above.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:42 am to
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Tidefans is always available to you Skeeter


The bammers there just as blindly retarded as the LLLSU fans here. And y'all are just fun to pick on.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24267 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:43 am to
This was posted by Lester earl on tiger rant of a timeline. I have no idea how accurate it is. This is his information he obtained I think from the article

“I've pieced together a timeline based on USA Today article and other articles about Drake Davis' situation.


Re: Von Rosenberg's claim about O have zero tolerance, it's hard to believe that given this timeline. Especially focusing on April 2018, Verge Ausbery had a confession and Mickey Joseph's ongoing involvement of keeping tabs on Davis.



Feb 3 2016: Drake Davis commits to LSU.

June 2016: Drake Davis enrolls at LSU

Sept 25 2016: Les Miles fired, Coach O named interim.

Nov 26 2016: Ed Orgeron is hired at LSU.

May 2017: Victim's father spoke with Tennis Coach Sell on two other occasions that summer about alleged abuse.

April 14 2018: Davis admits in a text message to Verge Ausberry that he punched the victim. The conversation was not revealed until Aug during a search warrant. Message was deleted from Ausberry's phone despite LSU protocol of keeping for 5 years.

April 25 2018: Victim is punched by Davis, also tells LSU athletic trainer Donovan White about May 2017 episode. Segar files Title IX report. This is the first time the victim has officially filed reports on incidents.

June 18 2018: Police are called after Davis assaults victim again. No arrest made, victim covers for Davis.

July 11 2018: LSU judicial affairs calls Davis in for interview. Mickey Joseph tags along for interview. 3 of the victim's friends tells LSU judicial affairs that victim is covering for Davis.

LSU did not interview Davis for 2 months. Allegedly assaulted victim on 3 more occasions between then.

Aug 4 2018: Drake Davis participates in LSU's first practice, despite being banned from the facilities all summer.

Aug 17 2018: Drake Davis arrested for beating g/f over 4 separate incidents, dating back as early as May 2017.

Interesting note to this one:

An arrest warrant was issued Thursday after a police were tipped off by an "LSU official" who learned of the allegations.

We know from USA today article that this was Segar.

Aug 18 2018: Davis is suspended indefinitely by football & university

Sept 16 2018: Drake Davis arrested again child pornography

Sept 18 2018: Davis is removed from the LSU football team. “
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:43 am to
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There's no proof that the two allegations ever made it past the Title IX office (whose report didnt even name Guice) and the tennis coach.


Whenever someone says that there's no proof, 90% of the time they're guilty... Kinda like there's no evidence/proof that Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself..
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:43 am to
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If you hold this against lsu football you are 100% a troll


"We can't be expected to be responsible for the trash we recruit."
Posted by LC412000
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Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:43 am to
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EarlyCuyler3

They are blindly retarded for sure
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1496 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:44 am to
Not trolling, but if any of these allegations hold any merit of truth, A LOT of heads should roll for this. Whether it be the Title IX office, AD's office, coaches, University administration, some or all should receive a pink slip!!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53242 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Not trolling, but if any of these allegations hold any merit of truth, A LOT of heads should roll for this. Whether it be the Title IX office, AD's office, coaches, University administration, some or all should receive a pink slip!!


Agree
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