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re: Does Kirby work in JT Daniels against UK in two weeks?

Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:39 pm to
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Because they thought Jake Fromm was better than Justin Fields


Answer me this. What evidence is there that Justin Fields improved from game 1 to game 14 in 2018? A true freshman should have lots of improvement from game 1 to game 14. How much did Fields improve?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33143 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:44 pm to
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2019 should have been a full out open competition to win the job but fields cried and left so we never got to see it.


In any other era, this is what happens. Its classic UGA luck the transfer portal and not sitting out a full season became a thing in 2019.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
25987 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Remember, we started Grayson Lambert over Jacob Eason for the first game as well.


Grayson Lambert arguably had a better 2015 season than Jacob Eason in 2016.
Kirby started the more prepared QB and when things were about equal then Kirby went with the more talented but less prepared QB. That's the smart move.
He also recruited Jake Fromm with Eason still on the roster. And recruited Fields with Fromm and Eason on the roster.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25895 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:43 pm to
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What evidence is there that Justin Fields improved from game 1 to game 14 in 2018?

The world will never know because he never really got a chance.

What we do know is that Justin Fields is a way, way more dynamic football player than Jake Fromm could ever be. That was true in week 1 of 2019 at the latest.

Doesn’t matter though. Water under the bridge. Hopefully Kirby learned from that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
33143 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 pm to
He did learn and he got the closest thing to Fields he could find for 2020. Too bad that guy was a bitch.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:43 pm to
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(And I would be woefully unqualified for such a job, too)


Dude, we hired Rich Kotite; don't stray too far from your phone.
- NY Jets
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:21 am to
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Mathis has the measurables to become a legitimate dual-threat QB like Bennett but with NFL height and arm strength. He should get game reps from here on out because we are going to need him if we are to face Alabama again in the SECCG


Mathis looked completely out of his element against Arkansas. No matter how many reps he gets from now until Atlanta, he is not going to be able to do anything against Bama.

If height and arm strength were the most important factors of playing QB than Ryan Mallett would’ve beaten out Tom Brady in New England. Until I see Daniels get playing time, Bennett gives us an exponentially better chance than anyone else on our roster in a rematch against Bama.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9508 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 4:16 am to
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And honestly I would rather see us develop these young guys aka Mathis and Beck.


Daniels has 3 years of eligibility.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22722 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:23 am to
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Daniels has 3 years of eligibility.


And any play this year doesn’t count. So 4 really.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5437 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:48 am to
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Maybe, but do you trust this staff’s quarterback judgement? I don’t, and as a result I think it’s equally possible Daniels has been ready to go for three weeks and Kirby hasn’t been giving him a shot because Stetson is playing “well enough”

If we had a good track record with QB decisions, this would be a much quieter topic.

Precisely my point.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12418 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:25 am to
I suggest we create the Rant Talent Evaluation Advisors and Recruit Development Squad ... We can call it RTEARDS For short and get matching shirts. We can make sure Kirbs recruits the right players, but more importantly develops and PLAYS the right players. We will advise him with our deep base of chatroom and local newpaper knowledge along with game film evals. This is something we clearly need at UGA. Who here is a RTEARDS?????!!!!
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5437 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:29 am to
Ah, I see we're supposed to be civil and defer to the coach all the time on a college football message board with the word rant in the title. Noted, captain.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12418 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:36 am to
What size would you like?
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4990 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:43 am to
Just out of curiosity...what would you prefer to see Kirby do with regard to the QB position, Cracker?

He seems to hint that Stetson will be the QB until one of the other guys develops past him.

Do you believe he intends to use a game manager in Stetson in order to hopefully avoid wasting the defense this year?

Do you believe there is a QB on the roster that is championship caliber?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45177 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:02 am to
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In 2018 fromm was pretty fricking good


Fromm was terrible in the LSU game and was not good in a few games leading up to that. The coaching staff should have been looking for any excuse to make the QB switch as it was always blatantly obvious who had more talent. If Fields had come in at halftime of the 2018 LSU game, we would be undefeated and favorites to win the national title this year.

You can't win with caretakers at QB anymore. You have to have a playmaker.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61171 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:04 am to
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Remember, we started Grayson Lambert over Jacob Eason for the first game as well.


Y'all wanna tell him, or should I?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27308 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:07 am to
He finished 3rd nationally in QBR
and ended up throwing 30 TD's and
6 INTS.

I believe it was the highest rated QBR in UGA history.So it's
a pretty "fricking good" season no
matter how you measure it.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45177 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:13 am to
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He finished 3rd nationally in QBR
and ended up throwing 30 TD's and
6 INTS.

I believe it was the highest rated QBR in UGA history.So it's
a pretty "fricking good" season no
matter how you measure it.


He got hot after the bye week. Going into the bye week, his numbers were fine but not great and the eyeball test showed a QB who was missing easy throws.

Like I said, the coaching staff should have been looking for any reason to bench Fromm for Fields, and the first half of the LSU game should have been the final straw.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 10:47 am to
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and the first half of the LSU game should have been the final straw.


The 2nd half of the LSU game was the final straw for Fields. It is still inconceivable to me that we didn't at least give him a series or two given how poorly Fromm and our entire O played that game.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12418 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:07 am to
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Just out of curiosity...what would you prefer to see Kirby do with regard to the QB position, Cracker?

He seems to hint that Stetson will be the QB until one of the other guys develops past him.

Do you believe he intends to use a game manager in Stetson in order to hopefully avoid wasting the defense this year?

Do you believe there is a QB on the roster that is championship caliber?


I assumed the USC kid would be the QB this year. Big talent and already proved himself in D1. With that said, he transferred because he lost his spot. Not sure exactly why other than what we have read. I can only assume Smart thinks Bennett gives us the best chance to win. Maybe the USC kid isn’t ready. Maybe the USC kid is playable, but lacking mobility. Bennett made some mistakes and got rattled. He also was let down by his Wrs at some key times. I’m sure the coaches look at that in the film room. Bottom line is, I don’t know what is going on that has us where we are at with the QBs. I could make some assumptions, but they would be assumptions. Some of y”all are like the dudes on Ancient Aliens on here, You make assumptions and then assume the assumptions are fact and then rage on them. It’s odd is all.
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