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Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11848 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Where does this shite end?! As a History PhD I don’t even know what to do at this point....

So anyone who ever owned a slave, in a time period where it was a social norm, statue is coming down? Regardless of anything else?




I asked someone yesterday the same thing. I guess all Catholic churches and Jewish synagogues are next. The colonization of the Americas, slave trade, and support of the founding fathers to commit treason and allow slavery to flourish in this country was mainly supported financially by the Catholic church and Jewish bankers in the Denmark and surrounding areas.
Posted by BamaReb
N Carolina
Member since Nov 2017
291 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:40 pm to
LOL Now you've done it. Bringing religion into the race and socioeconomic discussion. Here come the fireworks.

But you're spot on BTW. Propaganda from everywhere. Truth is based on the perspective of the source. And some sources fail (many times willingly) to see all the fact; especially if they don't support their "truth".
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14558 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I asked someone yesterday the same thing. I guess all Catholic churches and Jewish synagogues are next. The colonization of the Americas, slave trade, and support of the founding fathers to commit treason and allow slavery to flourish in this country was mainly supported financially by the Catholic church and Jewish bankers in the Denmark and surrounding areas.


So you're saying that religion has a dark and seedy history in allowing social injustice and promoting their own forms of class distinctions?

Speaking of the Catholics of the dark ages who were so oppressive with their Spanish and Holy Inquisitions and attack on anyone, anywhere, who dare to read the bible in their own language it started a worldwide phenomenon called the Reformation. And what came of it? A bunch of people who still today call themselves Protestants, from the term "PROTEST." It could happen again.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:24 pm to
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I asked someone yesterday the same thing. I guess all Catholic churches and Jewish synagogues are next. The colonization of the Americas, slave trade, and support of the founding fathers to commit treason and allow slavery to flourish in this country was mainly supported financially by the Catholic church and Jewish bankers in the Denmark and surrounding areas.



Careful Warrior, that kind of talk could be construed as Facist, neo-Nazi dogma.

See how easy it is to find reason to be offended if one so chooses? I'm not condoning the history you describe, but if I choose to be offended, I am living in the past and am held prisoner by it. It becomes a crutch that explains every failing in my life so I don't have to accept my responsibility for my circumstances.

I am also not making light of the systemic racial inequities that are no doubt present and prevalent. Those things must change so people of color don't have to work twice as hard to attain the same recognition of others. I simply use the above to illustrate how it has been taken and continues to be taken to the extreme.
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