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re: Can Alabama get into playoffs without TUA?

Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:38 pm to
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You don't need to do anything. I also know that your scenario could happen and we could still not get in.

I choose to just care about the Auburn game and going 11-1 and then seeing what they say.



Yet you clicked on the thread
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:38 pm to
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Alabama's best shot is if the other possible team is Oregon, and if Alabama wins very convincingly at Auburn. A common opponent is a very strong data point, and Alabama would own that convincingly.


Maybe, but to this point the committee is valuing wins over Losses. That is why UGA with the better wins was over Bama with definitively a much more respectable L. Alabama was also arguably a more rounded team with that potent O, but the committee seemed to value the wins more.

I think Oregon is a threat because they were very competitive vs AU in a game played 3 months ago. Oregon could end up the season with 12 straight wins. They have said they want teams to schedule better NC opponents. Had Oregon played Sam Houston State there would be no issue... and I'm not sure this is a message the committee wants to send.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32689 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:38 pm to
Man I wish. Get them in at 4 and us at 2 behind Ohio State then just beat the frick out of them in New Orleans. God without Tua we’d win by 4 TDs
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:38 pm to
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I choose to just care about the Auburn game and going 11-1 and then seeing what they say.


A very healthy perspective.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:39 pm to
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Yet you clicked on the thread



And posted in it

Three times now even
Posted by BuckeyeATC87
Indiana
Member since Nov 2019
332 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:39 pm to
The comparison with Tua being out is 2014 Ohio State though. Him being out the biggest factor because with him they are a top 4 team. Without him it's wait and see. 2016 and 2017 OSU and Bama had far superior resumes.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:39 pm to
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LSU wins out

OSU wins out

then one of the following

Clemson loses

OU lose to OSU or Baylor in a rematch.

Arizona or Utah lose in the next two weeks and the team that loses wins the PAC12.


If that happens Bama is in.


Yes if all that happens and Bama wins out they are in.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15403 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:39 pm to
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The concept of "Eye Test" is very ambiguous


Eye test means Bama has won every game they won by 19 points or more. No other one loss team is close to that and Bama lost to the current #1 team by 5 points
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Alabama's best shot is if the other possible team is Oregon, and if Alabama wins very convincingly at Auburn. A common opponent is a very strong data point, and Alabama would own that convincingly.



this would be completely irrelevant. Oregon would have the same amount of losses but a P5 championship which alabama would not.

Alabama's ONLY chance is for 2 p5 conferences to have champions with multiple losses. And that seems extremely unlikely.
Posted by Thomas T
Member since Oct 2019
127 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:41 pm to
I hate to say it but Bama is going to be out of the playoffs this year.

Good try guys Roll Tide.

LSU you beat us, so I am cheering for the tigers. Best of luck to the.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15403 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:41 pm to
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And posted in it

Three times now even



You need to be focusing on Western Carolina
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Eye test means Bama has won every game they won by 19 points or more. No other one loss team is close to that and Bama lost to the current #1 team by 5 points



But that Bama team no longer exists, and the committee clearly has written into their standards/bylaws/whatever that they are to take injuries into account.

So, even more so than usual, all that matters is the Auburn game for us, because the key component of the team that won by 19+ points every game isn't playing anymore this season. If we roll past Auburn then maybe there is no drop off. If we don't, or we lose, obviously everything before is heavily discounted. So all that other stuff could happen and it might still not matter.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 2:43 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:42 pm to
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You need to be focusing on Western Carolina



Furman first sir
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15403 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:43 pm to
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this would be completely irrelevant. Oregon would have the same amount of losses but a P5 championship which alabama would not.

Alabama's ONLY chance is for 2 p5 conferences to have champions with multiple losses. And that seems extremely unlikely.



IDK about extremely but it is unlikely. I dont think Clemson gets beat. But there is a chance that OU loses and the PAC has a 2 loss champion.
Posted by StarkvilleTigerFan
Muncie, IN
Member since Jan 2005
3939 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:44 pm to
Sure they can-with a convincing win over Auburn and A loss by anyone else but LSU( head to head)-with some crying/lobbying from Saban who's arse gets kissed by just about everybody...SURE THEY CAN!!!!
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:45 pm to
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but to this point the committee is...


"To this point..." is exactly nothing more than that: to this point.

And, to this point, Alabama is ahead of Oregon. If Alabama soundly defeats Auburn in their house behind a back-up QB, that makes Oregon's loss to them at a neutral site even worse.

UGA being ahead of Bama is really irrelevant, as far as Bama is concerned. Bama has needed LSU to beat UGA, and that's still true. UGA loses and they're out.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26991 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:46 pm to
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If we roll past Auburn then maybe there is no drop off.


If we roll past Auburn in their house, behind a back-up QB, then Oregon is in very deep shite.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:49 pm to
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"To this point..." is exactly nothing more than that: to this point.

And, to this point, Alabama is ahead of Oregon. If Alabama soundly defeats Auburn in their house behind a back-up QB, that makes Oregon's loss to them at a neutral site even worse.


Fair, but to this point Oregon still does not have what would be their best win in their resume... potentially over an 11-1 Utah.

Hate to say it but LSU winning out is hardly a sure thing. That Defense is a concern.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11982 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:50 pm to
Sure
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
6200 posts
Posted on 11/19/19 at 2:53 pm to
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Can Alabama get into playoffs without TUA


Yes
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