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re: Am I the only one pulling for the Night King?
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:26 pm to BoozeDawg
Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:26 pm to BoozeDawg
No worries. I still think if I'd only watched the show it'd still have been bad.
Imagine you're watching the Return of the Jedi and we're at the final duel between Darth Vader and Luke on the Death Star. They're duking it out, you've spent six years waiting for this and two and now one half movies looking for this conclusion. Vader gets Luke on the ropes and then out of no where a blaster bolt comes and hits DV in the skull killing him instantly, a half moment later the Emperor meets a similar fate.
The Camera then pans to Lando Calrissian, cape flowing in some unexplained wind, smoking blaster in hand. He smiles at Luke, winks, and says "Not today kid".
That's what happened last night.
Imagine you're watching the Return of the Jedi and we're at the final duel between Darth Vader and Luke on the Death Star. They're duking it out, you've spent six years waiting for this and two and now one half movies looking for this conclusion. Vader gets Luke on the ropes and then out of no where a blaster bolt comes and hits DV in the skull killing him instantly, a half moment later the Emperor meets a similar fate.
The Camera then pans to Lando Calrissian, cape flowing in some unexplained wind, smoking blaster in hand. He smiles at Luke, winks, and says "Not today kid".
That's what happened last night.
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Posted on 4/29/19 at 1:28 pm to KSGamecock
that was hilarious.
But i counter that with I havent spent as much time getting invested into Lando. I was stoked about Ayra handling it. Thats just me.
Posted on 4/29/19 at 2:56 pm to KSGamecock
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Camera then pans to Lando Calrissian, cape flowing in some unexplained wind, smoking blaster in hand. He smiles at Luke, winks, and says "Not today kid".
That's the ending in my head canon
Posted on 4/29/19 at 5:47 pm to KSGamecock
Star Wars is a good series to compare it to, because it, too, has a very powerful Mary Sue.
Now before you guys come at me with this, let me explain: I understand she has training, I understand she went off and joined the most powerful guild of assassins ever and learned how to take people's faces at a young age, and before that she was training with one of the best swordsman ever at a young age (hopefully you see where I'm going with this), but:
She fights with a sword as good or better than most expert fencers.
She shoots a bow just as good if not better than a bowman with the Iron Fleet.
She throws a dagger just as good if not better than most expert assassins.
She fights with a spear just as good if not better than an Unsullied.
She is a literal expert in every weapon, can disguise herself as any person and at no point is there a character smarter/more charismatic than her in any given scene.
Smart, strong, an expert in everything, slayer of the Night King because it's a "bad arse moment", even when she does 'fail' it's only to show off how much of a bad arse she is.
Sloppy, lazy script writing.
The battle tactics were absolutely horrendous, everyone knows that light cavalry is used for flanking because they possess superior movement. Any nerd with a dirty sock and a copy of Total War (any edition) knows this.
Then of course, you have dragons, and instead of using them to scout your opponents and even get a good strafe or two, you send your cavalry into the pitch black night. Years of buildup for the Dothraki to die in a few minutes because of rudimentary, fundamentally poor decision making is painful to watch.
I liked the episode because there's nothing that comes close, but it feels like the writers have completely run out of juice -- and instead of hiring people who are experts in medieval tactics and warfare, they've decided that "bad arse moments" supersede this.
When Jon Snow nearly died at the Battle of the Bastards, and they were surrounded and forced to trample each other to death -- that's interesting and horrifying. Watching some of the best tacticians in Martin's world completely fumble one of the easiest defensive strategies the world has ever known is just depressing.
No attempted bottlenecks, no fortification indoors to at least make it more difficult, no hot oil over the battlements and parapets, trench is like 10 feet wide against an army of incredible size, no heavy cavalry????, no arbalests, a lot less fire than necessary on and on and on. They had a long time to prepare for this fight and it's like they were just napping until the actual time to fight.
I've only seen the show and I was thoroughly disappointed. Years of building up this bad arse dude who literally threw a spear and killed a goddamn dragon gets stealthed while having his entire Goth Metal Praetorian Guard around him.
It was Jon Snow's battle, and a character completely unrelated to the arc comes in and "just so's" the most terrifying enemy their world has ever known. So sad.
Melt
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Now before you guys come at me with this, let me explain: I understand she has training, I understand she went off and joined the most powerful guild of assassins ever and learned how to take people's faces at a young age, and before that she was training with one of the best swordsman ever at a young age (hopefully you see where I'm going with this), but:
She fights with a sword as good or better than most expert fencers.
She shoots a bow just as good if not better than a bowman with the Iron Fleet.
She throws a dagger just as good if not better than most expert assassins.
She fights with a spear just as good if not better than an Unsullied.
She is a literal expert in every weapon, can disguise herself as any person and at no point is there a character smarter/more charismatic than her in any given scene.
Smart, strong, an expert in everything, slayer of the Night King because it's a "bad arse moment", even when she does 'fail' it's only to show off how much of a bad arse she is.
Sloppy, lazy script writing.
The battle tactics were absolutely horrendous, everyone knows that light cavalry is used for flanking because they possess superior movement. Any nerd with a dirty sock and a copy of Total War (any edition) knows this.
Then of course, you have dragons, and instead of using them to scout your opponents and even get a good strafe or two, you send your cavalry into the pitch black night. Years of buildup for the Dothraki to die in a few minutes because of rudimentary, fundamentally poor decision making is painful to watch.
I liked the episode because there's nothing that comes close, but it feels like the writers have completely run out of juice -- and instead of hiring people who are experts in medieval tactics and warfare, they've decided that "bad arse moments" supersede this.
When Jon Snow nearly died at the Battle of the Bastards, and they were surrounded and forced to trample each other to death -- that's interesting and horrifying. Watching some of the best tacticians in Martin's world completely fumble one of the easiest defensive strategies the world has ever known is just depressing.
No attempted bottlenecks, no fortification indoors to at least make it more difficult, no hot oil over the battlements and parapets, trench is like 10 feet wide against an army of incredible size, no heavy cavalry????, no arbalests, a lot less fire than necessary on and on and on. They had a long time to prepare for this fight and it's like they were just napping until the actual time to fight.
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No worries. I still think if I'd only watched the show it'd still have been bad.
I've only seen the show and I was thoroughly disappointed. Years of building up this bad arse dude who literally threw a spear and killed a goddamn dragon gets stealthed while having his entire Goth Metal Praetorian Guard around him.
It was Jon Snow's battle, and a character completely unrelated to the arc comes in and "just so's" the most terrifying enemy their world has ever known. So sad.
Melt
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