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A long screed about CFP bitching...Be forewarned.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:25 pm
I have read quite a few whinefests today about why the CFP doesn't work, why new rules should be enforced, etc... "We have Bama/Clemson fatigue!"
Stop bitching when you got what you asked for. Also, changing things isn't going to change the outcome. You are still going to get mostly Southern teams from Southern states winning the championship. Even if Alabama and Clemson decide to shut down their programs after Monday night, they will simply be replaced by other Southern teams. Here's why:
1. Football is a cultural thing here. You can call it what you want, but it is what it is. Most Southern boys don't grow up dreaming of playing for the NHL,or being the best soccer player, or winning that championship in badminton. They want to play football.
Southern people embraced college football almost 100 years ago. And those perennial powers like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, and every other team that were considered great knew they were essentially screwed. They started their own little league and bowed out of real football.
Southern schools MAKE money on football. Money that provides all those neat stadiums, workout facilities, practice facilities, rec rooms, training staffs, dietitians, and other goodies. Oh, and they also put money back into the general funds and provide money for regular student scholarships. Your NHL ticket didn't do that, our sold out stadiums did.
We love college football, and we support it. We teach it to our children. Many Southern states don't really have professional sports, so we support collegiate athletics.
2. You can reduce scholarships again, but you are still not going to out recruit most Southern teams. You are just going to cause fewer underprivileged kids a chance to go to college. There are around 130 FBS teams. Only about 10 or 12 of those are going to attract 4 and 5 star recruits on a consistent basis.
3. A playoff was created because YOU believed that the SEC was just some hype machine. Your teams were as good, they were just being left out. After being consistently skull dragged (with the exception of Ohio State), you think sacrificing more of your poorly recruited, badly coached, unsupported, and rarely-skilled teams to Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, etc... will make a difference? Let's face it, the CFP bitching PROVES you don't actually want the best teams to play. You want your team to be there, whether they are good enough or not. Hell, I am with you to a certain extent. I would love to watch a bunch of guys with the SEC patch on their shoulder teabag your champions an extra time every year.
4. All things come to an end. Alabama will eventually lose again. Who knows how long this can last? I am riding every glorious moment. I was born in 1970, and I have lived through ups and downs with my favorite team. When Bama finally declines, your team might have a similar run. Nebraska had a run. Oklahoma, USC, Florida State, Miami, Florida, the names go on and on. The worm will turn eventually. Don't try and turn NCAA football into the NFL so you can "feel" better.
Stop bitching when you got what you asked for. Also, changing things isn't going to change the outcome. You are still going to get mostly Southern teams from Southern states winning the championship. Even if Alabama and Clemson decide to shut down their programs after Monday night, they will simply be replaced by other Southern teams. Here's why:
1. Football is a cultural thing here. You can call it what you want, but it is what it is. Most Southern boys don't grow up dreaming of playing for the NHL,or being the best soccer player, or winning that championship in badminton. They want to play football.
Southern people embraced college football almost 100 years ago. And those perennial powers like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, and every other team that were considered great knew they were essentially screwed. They started their own little league and bowed out of real football.
Southern schools MAKE money on football. Money that provides all those neat stadiums, workout facilities, practice facilities, rec rooms, training staffs, dietitians, and other goodies. Oh, and they also put money back into the general funds and provide money for regular student scholarships. Your NHL ticket didn't do that, our sold out stadiums did.
We love college football, and we support it. We teach it to our children. Many Southern states don't really have professional sports, so we support collegiate athletics.
2. You can reduce scholarships again, but you are still not going to out recruit most Southern teams. You are just going to cause fewer underprivileged kids a chance to go to college. There are around 130 FBS teams. Only about 10 or 12 of those are going to attract 4 and 5 star recruits on a consistent basis.
3. A playoff was created because YOU believed that the SEC was just some hype machine. Your teams were as good, they were just being left out. After being consistently skull dragged (with the exception of Ohio State), you think sacrificing more of your poorly recruited, badly coached, unsupported, and rarely-skilled teams to Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, etc... will make a difference? Let's face it, the CFP bitching PROVES you don't actually want the best teams to play. You want your team to be there, whether they are good enough or not. Hell, I am with you to a certain extent. I would love to watch a bunch of guys with the SEC patch on their shoulder teabag your champions an extra time every year.
4. All things come to an end. Alabama will eventually lose again. Who knows how long this can last? I am riding every glorious moment. I was born in 1970, and I have lived through ups and downs with my favorite team. When Bama finally declines, your team might have a similar run. Nebraska had a run. Oklahoma, USC, Florida State, Miami, Florida, the names go on and on. The worm will turn eventually. Don't try and turn NCAA football into the NFL so you can "feel" better.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:29 pm to Bamapossum
I agree with #4. All dynasties end sooner or later. It’s just the way it is.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:45 pm to Bamapossum
There's no way I can read all that...
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:23 am to Bamapossum
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Southern schools MAKE money on football. Money that provides all those neat stadiums, workout facilities, practice facilities, rec rooms, training staffs, dietitians, and other goodies. Oh, and they also put money back into the general funds and provide money for regular student scholarships. Your NHL ticket didn't do that, our sold out stadiums did.
Sold out stadiums AND TV money.
Money is the main reason the season the SEC dominates... pretty simple.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:41 am to Bamapossum
Kirby and Georgia to the rescue! Then maybe, just maybe Jimbo and his Texans can make something happen. And don't forget Mullen if he can keep enough of his Florida gangsters eligible. And maybe even LSU if they can quit bitching long enough and remove their heads from their rectums! Help is on the way.
Problem is it ain't the help the rest of the country wants. Football is a war like thing and something southern people do and support. And the great athletes are here (blacks). They wanted to compete and make money well have at it. Now the answer is to throw more cannon fodder at the SEC machine. LOL! Hollywood has the movies and the south has college football. It just be's that way.
Problem is it ain't the help the rest of the country wants. Football is a war like thing and something southern people do and support. And the great athletes are here (blacks). They wanted to compete and make money well have at it. Now the answer is to throw more cannon fodder at the SEC machine. LOL! Hollywood has the movies and the south has college football. It just be's that way.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:53 am to Bamapossum
Did not read....only glanced at it..I doubt 1 in 10 will read it.
CF has been and will always be slanted to favor the Have's. ND getting in the playoffs, is that not enough of flawed for you?
CF has been and will always be slanted to favor the Have's. ND getting in the playoffs, is that not enough of flawed for you?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 1:05 am to Bamapossum
Cant disagree with much except the CFP, they needed the expansion to keep interest in the Midwest & Northeast.
The athletes are predominantly in the south, but the money is still heavy in the north. The powers that be don't care who wins, they care about sustained long term revenue & growth.
If ND, Penn St & Michigan can't at least sniff a CFP appearance there are problems everywhere.
The athletes are predominantly in the south, but the money is still heavy in the north. The powers that be don't care who wins, they care about sustained long term revenue & growth.
If ND, Penn St & Michigan can't at least sniff a CFP appearance there are problems everywhere.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:10 am to Bamapossum
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Let's face it, the CFP bitching PROVES you don't actually want the best teams to play. You want your team to be there, whether they are good enough or not
Posted on 12/31/18 at 6:20 am to Bamapossum
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Southern boys don't grow up dreaming of playing for the NHL,or being the best soccer player, or winning that championship in badminton. They want to play football.
I wish this were the case. My kids play football in a league in Atlanta and it is damn near impossible to fill out the rosters these days. Our participation is down 70% from 10 years ago. Juxtapose that with the fact that you can't swing a dead cat and not hit a soccer league. There are hundreds of youth soccer teams here. I think football is in rapid decline unfortunately.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 6:27 am to Bamapossum
Not sure op said anything revelatory, but I’ll add this:
Any poosies out there who do not wish to exist in the current system anymore are free to leave. A culling might not be the worst thing to happen to cfb. Distill this thing down to about 40-50 teams, and let the rest focus on basketball and women’s rights.
Any poosies out there who do not wish to exist in the current system anymore are free to leave. A culling might not be the worst thing to happen to cfb. Distill this thing down to about 40-50 teams, and let the rest focus on basketball and women’s rights.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 6:28 am
Posted on 12/31/18 at 9:54 am to Bamapossum
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Many Southern states don't really have professional sports, so we support collegiate athletics.
, this is bullshite.
Dont lump us in with Alabama just because all Alabama has is Auburn and the University of Alabama athletics
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:40 pm to Bamapossum
Let all the power 5 teams take steroids except for Bama and Clemson.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:47 pm to Bamapossum
I agree. College football has become a regional game. I used to like watching west coast football, but it is not worth watching anymore. The stadiums are all half empty outside a few venues. The midwest is still game, at least the fans are, but their athletes all want to play in better weather with more on the line.
It's not ncaa hockey regional, but we are not far off. Hell, UCF would have won the pac12... sad.
It's not ncaa hockey regional, but we are not far off. Hell, UCF would have won the pac12... sad.
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