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re: Sigh...attendance
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:28 pm to surgicalvenom
Posted on 8/22/18 at 2:28 pm to surgicalvenom
Accurate and well stated on all counts.
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Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:05 pm to JesusQuintana
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Mizzou fans are the only ones in the SEC that subscribe to this "well they have to be good before I support them" bull shite.
No, they’re not.
Arkansas had a bad team last year. Their attendance dropped almost 10%. Tennessee still had high attendance, but they dropped over 5,000 fans. Ole Miss had a terrible season and dropped 6,000 fans.
The whole SEC was down on average over 2,000 fans.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:22 pm to the808bass
That’s the difference in Mizzou and the typical SEC fan base. Mizzou fans don’t show until the team gets a few good wins, other SEC fans show up until it’s obvious that the team or coach aren’t good.
I don’t blame Mizzou fans for not showing up late last season, after the first 4 games it sure looked like Mizzou was headed for a 1-2 win season. The difference is attendance for the MO State, USC and Purdue games would have been much better at most of the other SEC schools.
I don’t blame Mizzou fans for not showing up late last season, after the first 4 games it sure looked like Mizzou was headed for a 1-2 win season. The difference is attendance for the MO State, USC and Purdue games would have been much better at most of the other SEC schools.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 4:44 pm to JesusQuintana
Some of this will depend on the student attendance. In the past I was shocked by the lack of attendance by students. I first noticed this when I went to the K-State game in 1998. K-State was ranked #2 and still the student attendance was very low.
I bought 8 tickets for the 2003 Independence Bowl. Took my family and a few friends. The fan support was better than I thought it would be and even better in 2005.
It’s not just Mizzou fans that don’t show up for home games it’s the lack of support from students that live within walking distance.
I bought 8 tickets for the 2003 Independence Bowl. Took my family and a few friends. The fan support was better than I thought it would be and even better in 2005.
It’s not just Mizzou fans that don’t show up for home games it’s the lack of support from students that live within walking distance.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:24 pm to wubilli
Our attendance was pretty steady last year. It was just bad from the jump.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:31 pm to the808bass
Remove any home games from the 1st week of deer season.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:50 pm to the808bass
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Our attendance was pretty steady last year. It was just bad from the jump.
Yea that kinda of my point. SEC fan bases, would have started stronger then dwindled based on quality of play.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 5:50 pm to JesusQuintana
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Kills me that people making the most excuses are the ones who scream the loudest when we don't succeed.
Like they can't see the correlation.
Mizzou fans are the only ones in the SEC that subscribe to this "well they have to be good before I support them" bullshite.
That's not how this works. Get your asses in the seats, donate...or don't complain.
just stop.
Somone makes this thread every year.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:04 pm to wubilli
Other SEC fan bases didn’t have their team threaten to not play in 2016.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:39 pm to the808bass
The 2015 protests seems to have done away with almost all of the work Pinkel put in at expanding the fan base.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:44 pm to JesusQuintana
Maybe get some real teams to play us at home?
Tenn-martin
Wyoming
Memphis
Kentucky
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Georgia
There is one game there worth giving a shite about.
Schedule home and homes with real teams.
Also you all want SEC fans, do you want SEC knee jerk reactions too?
Barry Odom would have been fired at most SEC schools when he started 1-5.
Tenn-martin
Wyoming
Memphis
Kentucky
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Georgia
There is one game there worth giving a shite about.
Schedule home and homes with real teams.
Also you all want SEC fans, do you want SEC knee jerk reactions too?
Barry Odom would have been fired at most SEC schools when he started 1-5.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 6:46 pm to the808bass
Theatening not to play will haunt the football team for awhile. It probably will not hurt with recruits, but it will hurt with the fans.
It was embarrassing for the fans and the university. The rant will always troll us about the poop swastika.
It was embarrassing for the fans and the university. The rant will always troll us about the poop swastika.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 8/22/18 at 7:18 pm to MizzouBS
As well they should.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:20 pm to TigerCruise
Well, see that's the problem. Tigers are playing. Fans should care about all of them.
I'm really not trying to lecture although I know it's coming off like that. Everyone is free to feel however they want. Personally, I think there is a lot to be excited about with this team. I just don't get the fans who cry about not recruiting well enough, or not winning enough then refuse to support the team. They go hand in hand.
I'm really not trying to lecture although I know it's coming off like that. Everyone is free to feel however they want. Personally, I think there is a lot to be excited about with this team. I just don't get the fans who cry about not recruiting well enough, or not winning enough then refuse to support the team. They go hand in hand.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:23 pm to kilo
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just stop. Somone makes this thread every year.
frick...I know. I wish we weren't having this same conversation every year. I wish the fanbase was foaming at the mouth to watch our Heisman candidate at QB and our team that won 6 of their last 7 to end last year. I wish we could get 60k fans to every game.
This shite is tiring man, and it absolutely negatively effects the program in many ways.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 8:34 pm to JesusQuintana
If I may chime in as an outsider who transplanted to Columbia, the lack of buzz around town surprises me. Having lived in Tuscaloosa, you can't go anywhere in August without talking about football, that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Also, from my limited observations, it seems like the program and Odom don't do a ton to go out in the community and promote themselves. In Tuscaloosa, Saban's charity has built 17 Habitat houses, the players go out and help on the builds, and I think that really draws in the community. Not to mention Terry Saban is a huge asset for the program and University. I could be off base here, I admittedly don't follow the Mizzou program super closely, and perhaps if I paid more attention I would see more promotion and community involvement.
Also, from my limited observations, it seems like the program and Odom don't do a ton to go out in the community and promote themselves. In Tuscaloosa, Saban's charity has built 17 Habitat houses, the players go out and help on the builds, and I think that really draws in the community. Not to mention Terry Saban is a huge asset for the program and University. I could be off base here, I admittedly don't follow the Mizzou program super closely, and perhaps if I paid more attention I would see more promotion and community involvement.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 9:58 pm to gumpinmizzou
I'll say, Odom spent a lot of his free time in St Louis this offseason. That relationship had been really fractured for awhile and I think it was important for him to do that. Granted, this was more about recruiting and not fan interaction but to me it was a very important use of his time.
I don't expect us to have a Bama level of support. That's unrealistic, but there are plenty of schools in our relative tier that have much more energetic, loyal fan bases.
I'm not saying we can't be good, because we can. I've been to a lot of road venues and when Faurot is full and the fans are engaged it is a legitimately good atmosphere. Everybody has bandwagon types, and you need them, but even our "diehard" base is pretty fair weather.
The protests also were very damaging and we are still feeling the effects.
This is why I support Odom. I think he's a good coach and will build a good program given the time and hopefully the resources. He's dealing with some tough circumstances that he had nothing to do with creating.
I don't expect us to have a Bama level of support. That's unrealistic, but there are plenty of schools in our relative tier that have much more energetic, loyal fan bases.
I'm not saying we can't be good, because we can. I've been to a lot of road venues and when Faurot is full and the fans are engaged it is a legitimately good atmosphere. Everybody has bandwagon types, and you need them, but even our "diehard" base is pretty fair weather.
The protests also were very damaging and we are still feeling the effects.
This is why I support Odom. I think he's a good coach and will build a good program given the time and hopefully the resources. He's dealing with some tough circumstances that he had nothing to do with creating.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:06 pm to JesusQuintana
Our recruiting is the same as it was before the protest and our attendance is too. Mizzou beat Kansas at the end of the season and the bowl committee picked Kansas to play in the Orange Bowl over Mizzou, because they said that Mizzou's fans don't travel well. They picked Kansas of all teams. That was a punk slap on Mizzou fans.
Posted on 8/22/18 at 11:37 pm to Zou brownmajic
That's not true
Our recruiting has also dropped about 10 spots from averaging in the low 30s to low 40s (I will say this seems to be going better specifically in State)
I know you want to act like it had no effect, but it most certainly did. Still feeling it
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The drop in revenue was not unexpected considering Mizzou's plummeting attendance figures in 2016, when the average home crowd fell from 65,120 in 2015 to 52,236 in 2016. Average attendance dropped again this past season to 51,490.
Our recruiting has also dropped about 10 spots from averaging in the low 30s to low 40s (I will say this seems to be going better specifically in State)
I know you want to act like it had no effect, but it most certainly did. Still feeling it
Posted on 8/23/18 at 12:01 am to JesusQuintana
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I just don't get the fans who cry about not recruiting well enough, or not winning enough then refuse to support the team. They go hand in hand.
I know plenty of fans like me that will call shite play when it's shite. Will can call out shitty coaching when it sucks.... Yet will just as easily give praise when deserved and.... Earned....... I don't see a problem with calling things good or bad as each fan sees fit.
How many times did you jump on and off the BO bandwagon last year?... Yet you still support the program Right??? OF course... as do I.
Personally over the last 20 years I have managed to go to 2 games all but three of those years..... With my schedule this can be and has been extremely hard to pull off most years. lol
This year I'm hoping for A road trip to Purdue then Home for Georgia..... Would love to try to squeeze in Memphis also.
Respectfully......just because some fans aren't rah rah 24/7 doesn't mean they don't support the program.
I do get what you're saying though.... I just think there is a decent amount that can bitch when warranted yet can still will support the program.
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