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re: Off Topic: Governor's race. Walt Maddox vs. Kay Ivey

Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:26 am to
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 7:26 am to
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the difference is one is a convicted criminal and the other was aledged to have committed those acts.



While he wasn't convicted of a crime, there were 3 or 4 women that came forward, all with very similar stories of how he used the power of his position of DA to coerce younger women into romantic relationships and intimidate them into not telling anyone about them. One of which was 14 at the time. There is still a court of public opinion, and those actions will always be worse to me than an adult man smoking crack and hiring a prostitute.

And that's not a defense of Barry. The guy is a scumbag that had no business being the mayor of DC.

This argument is dumb, and I hate I allowed myself to be dragged into it.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:08 am to
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While he wasn't convicted of a crime, there were 3 or 4 women that came forward, all with very similar stories of how he used the power of his position of DA to coerce younger women into romantic relationships and intimidate them into not telling anyone about them.


The only allegation that should have given anyone pause was from the woman who claimed to be 14 at the time, and her story was absolutely and unequivocally debunked. Never mind that lawyers put the timeline together and she would have been in her father's custody at the time she claimed she was in her mother's custody.

ETA: LINK

One lady admitted she lied about him signing her yearbook in an interview with ABC, no less. Of course, they didn't ask her why she lied, or why Roy Moore used the same signature he used during her divorce proceedings in 1999 when he wasn't using that signature at the time she alleges, but they at least got her to admit she lied about the rest of the note being his handwriting. Not difficult for a thinking person to follow the line from there. She's clearly lying.

Another claimed Roy Moore grabbed her butt in his office in 1991...when he was representing her mother in a custody battle for her child... Yeah, that's credible. Even if he did grab her butt in his office over 25 years ago, we all know this wouldn't even be mentioned if it wasn't for the other 2 allegations.

The lady who claimed he assaulted her at 14 is easily the most credible of the 3 (and there were only 3), but her story also has holes in it. She claimed this altercation led her to drug and alcoholism and a series of behavioral problems, but court records show her behavior actually improved after this alleged encounter. There's also the fact she wasn't actually in her mom's custody when this allegedly went down and that she would have had to walk more than a mile (and cross a rather busy street) from her mom's house to get to these alleged meetings, which are obviously the biggest problems with her story.

The overarching fact that he was most likely pursuing teenage girls as a 30-something man doesn't bother me. His own wife would have fallen into that category at the time. This really wasn't, and isn't, an uncommon thing. 14 would have been too young, but it seems hard to believe any of the women who came forward so I doubt that is true at all.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 9:30 am
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